Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Though the Greeks will default, we should not be too swift to claim that’s a good thing

This is a guest post by Andrew Lilico:

When we take out a loan, we undertake to repay. We make a promise. Even without an oath, our yes should be yes, our promises kept.

If we lend to someone that we believe cannot repay, we induce her to make a promise we believe she cannot keep. We thus induce her into an immoral act. A Benthamite would have it that we bear no responsibility, here. She entered into the deal freely – no-one forced her into it. The lender might take collateral or charge a very high interest rate, reflecting the risk. If both parties are willing, what is the problem? But the Christian should not regard this as adequate, any more so than when the same willing-trade argument is used to defend prostitution or slavery. Mere freedom not to participate does not make an immoral act any less immoral. If we induce someone to commit an immoral act – be it prostitution or promise-breaking – we are culpable. When Eck and Melanchthon commenced the Reformation era re-framing of thought about usury, they were focused upon the concept of lending to the relatively well-off, who were known to be well-placed to repay, and it was important that no harm was done or intended by the usurer.

When a nation takes out a loan, it undertakes to repay. If it does not do so, it break its promise. That is wrong. Greece has been a democracy throughout the period it acquired the vast majority of the debts it now owes. If the Greek population did not wish its government to borrow, it was free to vote for a different government. Greeks enjoyed lower taxes, higher public sector salaries, higher benefits, higher economic growth, and many of the other fruits of the debts it acquired. Did we see protests from Greeks about these benefits? No. The Greek population chose this path, when other paths were possible.

The Greeks will now default – we can be confident of that. But many commentators go further than observing the fact that they will default, to urging that they should, and that others are wrong to try to persuade them not to do so. Default there will be, but it will be a moral failing mainly of Greek making, not that of others. And it will not, in fact, truly be the case that the Greeks have no choice but to default. Not defaulting might involve many years of serious declines in Greek living standards, but even at the end of that period Greece would have a wealth per person much higher than that of most countries in the world. We would expect an Egyptian businessman, or a Peruvian home-owner to pay her debts; so why would it be immoral to hope that a much richer Greek might do so?

The attempts to bail out Greece with international funds are of course bailouts of the banks of other countries, under another name. It is wrong that poor German and British taxpayers keep the wealthy German and British bondholders and depositors in banks rich, despite the investment errors those wealthy people made. But it was not obviously wrong, in many cases, for banks to have lent money to Greece. At the time those loans were made, back in the halcyon days of the mid-2000s, banks had no conception that Greece might not repay. Perhaps they should have worried about that, but that is a different matter. These banks were not making immoral loans to a borrower they knew could not repay. They were merely making loans that, with the benefit of hindsight, we can now see were ill-advised – quite a different matter. If/When the Greeks now do not repay their loans, that is a moral failing of the Greeks, not of the banks.

But there are players out there that did indeed make loans to Greece at a time when it was clear that Greece would not be able to repay, immorally inducing the Greeks into promises they would not keep. Those players are the IMF and the EU. By the time of the 2010 (and now 2011) bailout packages, it was already obvious that the Greeks would eventually default. And that was widely understood even by the politicians and technocrats involved in putting together these bailouts. The point of the bailouts was not to save Greece – it was to delay default to a moment that was more convenient for the banking sector. But the effect was that Greece was induced to make promises it would not keep. That is immoral.

Thus the agents that are culpable here are not, in fact, the banks. Those in the wrong are the Greeks for refusing to pay (when they do so refuse) – the sin of promise-breaking - and the EU and IMF for making loans they knew would not be repaid – the sin of usury inducing promise-breaking.

10 Comments:

Blogger Countrey Parson said...

I agree with all this as it is stated. But it seems to me that it misses the point.

We don't have much influence, and shouldn't have any, over the Greek people and their government. Of course they should pay their debts, if they can, but we cannot make them pay. The debate for us, and for the EU as a whole, is whether the poor taxpayers you mention are going to pay Greece's debts. If Greece cannot, or will not pay, I would urge them to default rather than continue the system of bailouts. If they were going to pay their own debts, the question woulndn't arise.

28 September 2011 09:21  
Blogger C.Law said...

Whilst I agree that the Greek people must accept their own responsibilities in this matter - though I do not think their fault is as clear cut as the author makes out - I do not accept that the banks were not at fault. Everyone knew when Greece entered the Eurozone that they did not fit the entry requirements and would not be able to comply with the rules. The banks lent money to Greece in the full knowledge that repayment was doubtful, but relied on the EU authorities to back the Greek Government as they were part of the Eurozone. That's like offering a loan to an individual who you know can't pay on the basis that you can push his brother into paying for him: it is dishonest.

The other Eurozone Governments which allowed Greece to join (for political rather than economic reasons) bear a great responsibility in engendering this moral hazard for Greece and the banks, but that does not mean that the banks have not been dishonest.

So far as the Greeks are concerned, their successive governments have indeed been irresponsible and dishonest, to themselves, their electorate and to the rest of the world. The people have been naive and perhaps wilfully blind, but it is also naive to expect any electorate to vote against a government which is keeping taxes low, etc, if that government keeps on insisting that the situation is in hand.

28 September 2011 09:41  
Blogger Belsay Bugle said...

I have two comments:

'The Greek people didn't protest about the borrowing at the time.'

What could any individual do about it if he thought it was wrong? Making people collectively responsible for the wrongdoing of others is immoral.

For at least the last two decades I have railed against the immorality of the housing bubble, refusing to take a huge mortgage on overvalued property. I was financially wrong, but morally right and now I find myself having to pay for all those people who did as the zeitgeist encouraged them. Because a large part of the current debt crisis is the huge unquantified debts that banks hold against overvalued property that has not yet been crystallised. That is the crash waiting to happen and everyone involved should be allowed to go bankrupt rather than making the productive and prudent pay for the improvident and greedy for years to come.

The second point is a short one. Forgiveness of debt was built into medieval thinking and can be a moral imperative in certain circumstances. Is this not one? As you say there is immorality on both sides. The Greeks were induced by the empire building ambitions of the EU which turned a blind eye to their profligacy. The Eurocrats knew full well what the Greeks were like but it suited them to pretend differently.

28 September 2011 10:25  
Blogger I am Stan said...

Your Grace

Money, money, money, everything`s about money, does it actually mean anything any more I wonder, my pocket isn`t bulging with coins made of precious metals, its numbers on a screen in the street, or bits of paper.

Need more to play with, to make the numbers add up to 0, fire up the printing presses and around and around we`ll all go!......again and again and again, round and around and......

28 September 2011 10:30  
Blogger bluedog said...

' It is wrong that poor German and British taxpayers keep the wealthy German and British bondholders and depositors in banks rich, despite the investment errors those wealthy people made.'

Did this sentence stray from a speech at the Labour party conference? Apart from its blatant envy (seven deadly sin alert) it's not even correct.

Most individual investors buy foreign bonds through an intermediary such as an investment trust or mutual fund, PIMCO being a good example. In this instance a manager makes the tactical investment decision, not 'the wealthy German and British bondholders'. Large numbers of people who do not have individual portfolios invest indirectly through pension funds. These pension funds will almost certainly have a weighting towards foreign bonds as part of a broad asset allocation strategy. In other words British and German taxpayers are in the bond markets globally just like 'the wealthy German and British bondholders'.

So to posit that wealthy British and German investors are being bailed out by the innocents is some way short of what really happens.

Spices up the copy though.

28 September 2011 11:10  
Blogger Hereward said...

The EU is primarily responsible for the impending default. They put banks under duress and manipulate the ECB for political ends. The EU welcomed Greece knowing that it would never meet the convergence criteria and that the single currency locked the “fire exits.”

Part of the building is ablaze and their futile attempts to extinguish the fire have only made things worse for the trapped. Failing to provide an evacuation route was not very kind and not very clever either. When the conflagration spreads there will be no orderly way out for anyone.

The monetary union is looking more like a suicide pact.

28 September 2011 12:20  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Interesting parallel with the UK, only it’s the Greek high standard of living they were made to expect. Over here it’s half the young being sent to university to obtain a much devalued certificate and a place in the dole queue. That’s the real monster, unrealistic expectations forced on the electorate by dishonourable politicians who see the ‘feel good’ factor as what will keep them in power. They have nothing else to offer.

The Greeks don’t seem to be too happy about their inevitable slide in living standards, unlike the down at heel UK poor who will put up with anything. When they try to better themselves, they find immigrants living in the house they wanted. When they try and get work, some Eastern European economic migrant is doing the job for half the rate and still sending money home. And that’s their / our government looking after their interests.!! God alone knows how the poor will survive here when the government stops looking after their interests !!

The Inspector has a suggestion of how to make the Greeks see how really well off they are even after their cuts. Greek film crews and documentary makers should turn up in the UK during our winter. Film in the poor areas (where to start ??) see a family turn the heating right down, the baked beans for tea, the father who hasn’t worked for years in an unemployment black spot, granny feeding the cat instead of herself, the crime, the degradation, the hopelessness of it all. And where’s the investment to help these people – on it’s way to Greece, or will it be Portugal or Ireland or even Italy. Anywhere but home apparently….

It’s always the poor that suffers in England – a historical truth down the years. No wonder we colonised a quarter of the world, the people concerned couldn’t get out of here quick enough…

28 September 2011 18:39  
Blogger Johnnyrvf said...

If the Euro collapses by the domino effect of Greece defaulting, which the markets have accepted already, it will spell the end for the E.U. as it is now, REJOICE! because the E.U. is not about freedom, it is about tyrany......but judging by the tone of the article and the respones not many people here are au fait with the treaty of Rome or what followed.

28 September 2011 20:24  
Blogger bluedog said...

Your Grace

Once the Greeks work out where their own interests lie they will follow the Argentine default model. In this the Greek sovereign default is matched by a forced Greek private sector default so that all Greek assets and liabilities in euro are converted to drachma over night. This shifts the Greek devaluation on to the balance sheet of the ECB, which will be the next euro institution to fail.


The sooner, the better.

30 September 2011 00:28  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

bluedog: "The sooner, the better."

I guess so if it's inevitable but it won't just be the ECB which suffers. We're exposed to about 14bn euro of greek debt in total. If the euro collapses then it's not only our government and bank loans which will be hit, it's our export market. The fallout will be massive, and horrible.

1 October 2011 07:29  

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