Thursday, January 19, 2012

Christian persecution – the top 50 countries

Open Doors have again done the world a great service with the 2012 publication of their World Watch List. It is compiled from a qualitative questionnaire which covers various aspects of religious freedom in each country. Points are ascribed to permit a quantitative assessment of the liberty or oppression experienced by Christians.

Here are the Top 50 worst persecutors of Christians:

1. North Korea
2. Afghanistan
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Somalia
5. Iran
6. Maldives
7. Uzbekistan
8. Yemen
9. Iraq
10. Pakistan
11. Eritrea
12. Laos
13. Northern Nigeria
14. Mauritania
15. Egypt
16. Sudan
17. Bhutan
18. Turkmenistan
19. Vietnam
20. Chechnya
21. China
22. Qatar
23. Algeria
24. Comoros
25. Azerbaijan
26. Libya
27. Oman
28. Brunei
29. Morocco
30. Kuwait
31. Turkey
32. India
33. Burma (Myanmar)
34. Tajikistan
35. Tunisia
36. Syria
37. United Arab Emirates
38. Ethiopia
39. Djibouti
40. Jordan
41. Cuba
42. Belarus
43. Indonesia
44. Palestinian Territories
45. Kazakhstan
46. Bahrain
47. Colombia
48. Kyrgyzstan
49. Bangladesh
50. Malaysia

While the oppressive, atheist-communist regime of North Korea is (again) the worst persecutor of Christians in the world, it must be observed that the rest of the Top 10 are Islamic. In fact, 38 of worst 50 countries persecuting Christians are predominantly Muslim.

While His Grace doesn’t wish to cause offence, he’d very much like to know what is to be made of the appalling statistic that 76 per cent of the world’s fiercest oppressors and persecutors of Christians are culturally, politically and religiously Islamic? Have they all misunderstood the Religion of Peace? Are they torturing and murdering their cousins – the People of the Book – in error and in contravention of quranic precepts? How could so many be so wrong in their interpretation of the sharia? Or misapplication of sharias? What does Allah think of it? Would Mohammed approve of the systematic persecution, imprisonment, torture and slaughter of those who follow the prophet Isa?

And must we remain silent about this? Must we take tea with the Taliban and sell arms to the Wahhabi kingdom of Saudi Arabia out of tolerance and respect? While we happily take their oil money and permit them to build mosques and open their free schools, they murder our brothers and sisters in Christ – reserving the most appalling torture and suffering for those who have rejected Islam and accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.

And so it is ironic, is it not, given this list, that the Organization of the Islamic Conference sponsored a UN resolution entitled ‘Combating intolerance, negative stereotyping, stigmatization, discrimination, incitement to violence and violence against persons, based on religion or belief’.

It beggars belief that while OIC members insist they are the epitome of tolerance and shine at the zenith of global religious liberty, the reality is that they are the most intolerant of Christians and Christianity, and the suffering and despair they inflict places them at the nadir of humanity.

57 Comments:

Blogger Stuart James said...

I read recently that foreign aid is to be tied with treatment of the gay community.

I wish it would also be tied with treatment of religious minorities....

19 January 2012 at 08:40  
Blogger Edward Spalton said...

Ethiopia?

I thought that the majority of the country followed Christianity - and of a very ancient foundation.

19 January 2012 at 08:50  
Blogger Gillan Scott said...

I would be very interested to hear the views of British Muslims on this matter. I keep hearing messages that Islam is a moderate faith, but if many in the Muslim community are unwilling to speak out against the persecution of other faiths, then it becomes increasingly difficult to find reason to believe this.

19 January 2012 at 09:47  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Thank you for bringing this to the attention of your 'congregation'.

Of course, you realise it proves you are a bigoted islamophobe and probably guilty of a hate crime!

Oh, and lets not forget that the persecution meted out by these 38 muslim states pales into insignificance when compared to the suffering & persecution the Palestinian Ummah receive at the hands of Israel!!

19 January 2012 at 10:19  
Blogger thestreetman said...

Thank you YG.

One presumes this will be deemed to be of little importance and therefore ignored by the "national broadcaster" (sic), the treacherous BBC.

19 January 2012 at 10:38  
Blogger bluedog said...

Where's the UK on the list, Your Grace. Can't see it.

19 January 2012 at 10:57  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

@thestreetman ... for it to feature on the BBC it would have to be the 50 countries for gay persecution.

@bluedog ... we might feature on a "highest climber" chart, but this list should make us incredibly thankful for the freedoms & liberties we still possess. And that gratitude should overflow into mission lest we ever find ourselves in the top 50.

19 January 2012 at 11:10  
Blogger Shacklefree said...

Srizals, Your comments please!

19 January 2012 at 11:20  
Blogger Jon said...

There would also seem to be quite a high correlation between poverty and this list too, YG. There are some exceptions - Saudi Arabia soaks its citizens in oil money, but many of it's citizens are underemployed, and there's not a lot of "human capital" going around.

19 January 2012 at 11:21  
Blogger Shacklefree said...

I once saw a newspaper article of an Islamic debate in BAHRAIN which was organized to promote the ideals of tolerance. The motion BEWFORE THE MEETING was that it should be made illegal for Muslims to kill other Muslims.

19 January 2012 at 11:39  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Here's the Open Doors video

Hurrah for the "Arab Spring"?

19 January 2012 at 11:56  
Blogger Npinkpanther said...

Didn't expect to see India on there...

19 January 2012 at 12:11  
Blogger TRex said...

Your Grace,
Thank you for another inciteful post. I would be intrigued to know if there is a similar index of countries ranked by their persecution of Muslims.

Would we see a similar "eye for an eye"?

19 January 2012 at 13:17  
Blogger Oswin said...

Of course Mohammed would approve!

At least, that is, for those countries where the muslims have the upper-hand. Those who do not, have to pretend awhile, until they do!


TRex @ 13:17 : why don't you compile a list?

19 January 2012 at 13:31  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

At least the persecution of Christianity is out in the open. Reprehensible and inhumane as it is, and something must surely be done about it, at least Christians will gain some solace knowing a greater reward awaits them as they cling to the Lord and their faith. And God Bless for doing so.

In the West, our freedom and tolerance is risking depriving people of their Heavenly home. May God grant us pardon for abandoning His ways in our lives - unless we are "born again", of course, when salvation is quarenteed.

To die a martyr in the certain hope of ressurrection and salvation or to die in a state of gracelessness and grievious sin? There's the question.

19 January 2012 at 13:53  
Blogger Oswin said...

'Persecution unto eradication' is something I've always had a problem with. Call me an old 'Reformation' cynic, but I'd sooner clobber the opposition, and then await judgement.

19 January 2012 at 14:15  
Blogger Corrigan1 said...

38 of the top 50 persecutors of Christians are Muslim countries, and somehow that's an opportunity to take a swipe at the Palestinians. Words like "anal" and "obsessive" spring to mind. "Shameless" is another, albeit one without meaning to the average Zionist; they don't do shame.

19 January 2012 at 14:21  
Blogger Oswin said...

Corrigan: to whom/what are you referring?

19 January 2012 at 14:36  
Blogger thestreetman said...

Corrigan

Once again you feel the need to bring up the Joos... sorry, "Zionism" (yeah, right).

As for the holy, blameless, morally perfect "Palestinians", have you noticed how few Palestinian Christians remain in either the Wes Bank, or Gaza? And have you noticed the growth in the number of Christians in Israel. Yup, surprised me too.

Now why is that, do you think? (Clue: read YG's article...)

19 January 2012 at 14:40  
Blogger IanCad said...

Thank you YG for bringing this to our attention. Also for your recent post on 01/12 Re; Section 5.
Religious Liberty is our greatest freedom. We must guard and fight for it. We owe that to those who have died in the battle for good over evil.
May Christ srengthen the persecuted.
Why is Columbia on the list?

19 January 2012 at 15:48  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

2 Timothy 3:12 --
'Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.'

19 January 2012 at 15:52  
Blogger non mouse said...

Why, Your Grace, wot about euTopia? Can't the list compilers spell?

19 January 2012 at 16:11  
Blogger AncientBriton said...

I see surprise expressed in previous comments at the inclusion of some countries,eg, Ethiopia and India.

Compass Direct News lists atrocities by country, including Ethiopia and India. Further details in my recent post, The Two faces of Islam. http://ancientbritonpetros.blogspot.com/2012/01/two-faces-of-islam.html

19 January 2012 at 16:54  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Completely WRONG statement in your first sentence, YG.
It should have read as follows:

While the oppressive, communist god-kings theocracy of North Korea is (again) the worst persecutor of Christians in the world ...

Many muslims are very unhappy about the persecution by other so-called muslims of others, whether christian, atheist or alternative sorts of muslim. [ Consider the violent and bloody sunni/shia conflict, for instance]
I have a near neighbour who is Sufi - were he to go to many so-called "muslim" countries, he would be in danger of his life.

19 January 2012 at 17:39  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Your Grace. Whatever the merits, if there are any, of the so called peaceful nature of Islam the religion, it is clear that Islam the way of life has negated them in every case. It is truly astonishing that it’s happened to EVERY Islamic country seemingly independently from influences from others.

What we indeed have is a situation where the lower races of the world have adapted the heartless aspects of a religion to reflect themselves and their natural way of life. This way of life is primarily the survival of their lifestyle at whatever the cost. Islam preaches insecurity. What other religion is so insecure of itself that it will resort to killing anyone who leaves it. Insecurity breeds contempt for others. Always to be seen as a threat.

Now, the Inspector’s point is this. Why do the (…Christian…) West continue to give aid with few strings attached to enable these countries to maintain their odious ways. Hardly surprising that Islam laughs at us. Stop the aid, let the muslim people suffer, and wait for these failing states to come on their hands and knees to the West, in humility. And they will, or face upheaval and revolution at home. Nothing will EVER change there until we come to this way of thinking.

Good grief Tingey, you managed to post something without ranting. What is going on !

19 January 2012 at 18:20  
Blogger len said...

Christianity in its purest form presents a real threat to Islam, and to many other `isms.
That is why Christianity has been persecuted right from the very start.
When Christianity becomes accepted by the 'World' then it is in trouble because the World will eventually corrupt it.
Christianity(in its purest form) is not of this World it is entirely of another 'World'.

19 January 2012 at 19:57  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

I suggest aid should be conditional on the recipients converting to Christianity. That would either result in many muslims abandoning that satanic cult, to their eternal benefit, or they'll stick to their aberration of a religion and we'll keep more of our own money and they can collectively wallow around in the squalor of their own making, for all eternity.

19 January 2012 at 20:04  
Blogger Corrigan1 said...

Oswin, I'm referring to comment no 4 by Rebel Saint

19 January 2012 at 20:10  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

The way appeasement of Islam and any other way of life/culture is going here, we will be near the top of that list one day soon. I'd like to know how TPTB are getting away with it, oh yeah Eastenders, X Factor, lastest Iphone, dumbed down education system, a belief in the MSM and a complete disengagement from what's really going on. There doesn't look like there is going to be an awakening any time soon.

Just to cheer myself up I've ordered a copy of 'The Horse At the Gates' by D C Alden from the Library, that should do it:)

19 January 2012 at 20:47  
Blogger Span Ows said...

Corrigan1 said in reply to rebel saint:
38 of the top 50 persecutors of Christians are Muslim countries, and somehow that's an opportunity to take a swipe at the Palestinians. Words like "anal" and "obsessive" spring to mind. "Shameless" is another, albeit one without meaning to the average Zionist; they don't do shame.


IMHO it is the surrounding Arab States that lack shame and are anal and obsessive about the Palestinians. The fire is only kept fuelled as a bat to beat the Israelis round the head with. To be honest most Pals would be better off claiming asylum within Israel to avoid the mistreatment they get from their Arab 'brothers' and neighbours.

19 January 2012 at 20:50  
Blogger Span Ows said...

maturecheese, just reading that myself, so far it's a very good read.

19 January 2012 at 20:52  
Blogger DP111 said...

Ethiopia used to be a majority Christian country. But Muslim birth rates are high, and the result is that Ethiopia has almost the same number of Muslims as Christians.

Christians are persecuted in some states in India - Kashmir for one. This is despite the constitution of India.

Barnabus Fund has details.

The persecution of Christians in Muslim countries is though systemic i.e., it is encoded in the law, as well as the hearts and minds of the populace.

19 January 2012 at 22:57  
Blogger srizals said...

Er, hello, hello, testing, one, two, three...

20 January 2012 at 22:00  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oh no!

20 January 2012 at 22:14  
Blogger srizals said...

Shacklefree 11:20,

Now, let's see,

1. We don't have Islamic Zionist lobbyist group specifically supporting the occupation of their brothers.

2. We don't have any of their brothers died violently on daily basis in war perpetrated by us.

3. We don't have any politicians trying to tax their crucifixion or regulate laws or vote on the design of their churches.

4. We don't have any law prohibiting their dress according to their religious fashion code.

5. We do not label them all as mosque desecrating hooligans even though pig heads do get thrown into our mosques from time to time.

6. We do not prohibit them from their indulgence of non-halal meat, wine, gambling and sex outside marriage. We do not take them to court, except if they gamble in the millions of ringgit in football betting scheme.

7. We do not blame them for wearing tiny itsy bitsy bikinis, shorts, mini-skirts nor insist that they have to wear burqas in our midst. Our women get fined for wearing the dress of her choice in public in certain Christian countries.

8. We do not hold dialogues questioning our minorities’ loyalty for their brethren’s roles in destroying and supporting the thievery of our brethren’s countries.

9. We do not have anyone daring to suggest burn the Bible day or suggest that it is the same with Mein Kampf or any public degenerating stunts.

10. We do not have anyone daring to suggest Christians shouldn't be following Christian laws or suggest that they are barbaric and not suited for our country. Jesus told not to preach to the gentiles and he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel only. So we do not stop them from preaching to the Jews here. Christians followed Jesus right?

11. We do however acknowledge that gay Christians cannot marry in Malaysia. That's why we got into the list.

12. We do however require any Muslim that wished to change their faith to take it to court and undergo talk session so that they know what they are getting themselves into. After that their fate lies in their hands.

13. We do not consider them as terrorists or future terrorists even though their brethren are terrorising our brothers in ‘legal and just’ wars throughout the globe. We don’t hate them for the actions of their brothers in faith peeing on our brothers’ dead bodies, burning their corpses, torturing our little children and raping our sisters. We understand that all the evil are the work of the drones.

And that's why I got number 50.

Thanks.

20 January 2012 at 22:51  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

In fairness, srizals has a point. The actual hard evidence against Malaysia persecuting Christians is slim. World Watch states:

"Freedom for Christians is deteriorating. Malay believers face increasing hostility from the government and Islamic fundamentalists, while established churches are under threat. Malaysian law restricts conversion of Malay Muslims to other religions. In five states, it is a criminal offence which can be punished by a fine or even a jail term. There have been reports of Muslim-background believers facing arrest or physical assault. In August 2011, 5,000 demonstrators joined a rally against the Christian minority after rumors spread about a Christian plan to convert the whole country."

In brief - fear and suspicion from the Muslim host community leading to a climate of threats and intolerance.

Despite this, in September 2011 the government announced that Malay-language Bibles could be printed locally.

20 January 2012 at 23:39  
Blogger Youthpasta said...

The thing that interests me is how Islam understands the Koran. In speaking with a Muslim friend a few years ago I discovered that the way he was taught to read it was to take the more recent writings as canon if they clashed with earlier writings.

I have also learned that the original teachings in the Koran said to be friends with Jews and Christians as they were followers of the same God, just not on the right path. However later writings called on Muslims to stop being friendly and then, even later, to fight and kill them if they didn't convert.

My query on all this is, if the way of understanding contradictions in the Koran (and I know that it is claimed to not have any, but I was told by a Muslim that it does!) is the more recent stuff overrules the earlier stuff and what I have said about what Muhammad writes about relationships with Jews and Christians is accurate then how can Islam claim to be a peaceful religion, how can it claim to be tolerant and how can it possibly be seen as possible to have a peaceful relationship between the 2 biggest converting religions in the world?

22 January 2012 at 10:15  
Blogger len said...

To clear up common misunderstandings about Islam 'the religion of peace'.

Islam IS a religion of peace....BUT only to those who are in total submission to Islam and all its laws and doctrines.

However if you are NOT in submission to Islam THEN Islam is going to MAKE you submit!.

For further information Google Dar al-Islam (House of Islam)

Dar al-Harb (House of war)

22 January 2012 at 10:23  
Blogger srizals said...

There is only one Koran in the entire world, Youthpasta.

Go here Youthpasta, and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

http://www.load-islam.com/artical_det.php?artical_id=414&subsection=Misconceptions

Dar al-Harb would be Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and other weak defenceless countries, Len, where Muslims die on daily basis. North Korea, Russia and China would be House of Islam.

The way of the truth cannot be reached if one only dare to listen and read from one side of the story what more from the less informed. You have to hear both side of the story and decide.

And decide well you must. For lies could be blinding and truth could be unseen by those who have blinded themselves.

22 January 2012 at 13:01  
Blogger len said...

Christians in Muslim Countries are being executed on a daily basis srizels.
What threat do they pose to Islam?.

22 January 2012 at 18:06  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

len
I'm no supporter of Islam but the geographical-economic-polical nature of Islamist fundamentalism has to be taken into account in understanding its response to Christianity.

Malaysia suggests not all Muslim nations persecute Christians.

Have you taken the time to review the reports on the 50 countries listed? You should as it is illuminating.

22 January 2012 at 20:03  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: you really need to take a closer look at Malaysia old chap.

23 January 2012 at 16:51  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oswin
Just basing my comments on the World Watch report which is scant on evidence of persecution.

From what I can tell from other sources Christians are feeling uneasy as there are accusations they are proselytising. This is illegal with penalties of a year’s imprisonment or a fine of almost £2,500.

It seems no one has ever been formally charged with trying to convert Muslims but statements by some politicians and groups promoting Islam have left Christians feeling victimised as some groups are claiming there is a plot to “Christianise” the country.

There is a potential election this year and it seems this issue is being used by the UMNO party to play on religious sensitivities to gain support from Malay Muslims.

“The present climate and mood is more political than anything else,” said the Rev. Lawrence Andrew, editor of The Herald, the Roman Catholic Church’s weekly newspaper in Kuala Lumpur. Father Philips, who is also vice president of the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism, said he believed that UMNO was seeking to portray itself as the “savior of Muslims.” “They are thinking that it will unite the Muslims together, but I don’t think that any Malaysians buy it,” he said. “It’s a political game.”

23 January 2012 at 18:13  
Blogger srizals said...

Oswin,

I'm reading a book by Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History. I've read many books and resources about Christianity, but this book has really put most of them in chronological order. Read it, at least you have some ideas why many resented Christianity, to a point, for example, China has banned the Bible. Not forgetting Taiping rebellion of course.

The writer is not a Muslim. And in my opinion, she has no ill intention towards Chritians. There is however something to be learned from that book. The fear of history repeating itself. But in my opinion, it's a little too late already. I could be wrong though. I hope I'm wrong.

24 January 2012 at 01:40  
Blogger Oswin said...

Srizals: thankyou for the reccomendation, but I have my own copy beside me as I write.

As I've said to you before: whatever Christians have done wrong, they were not urged to do so by Christ, or by anything to be found, written within the New Testament.

Whereas, your Mohammed, and the writings thereof, is another kettle of fish entirely.

However, my main point being: what has your comment to do with my suggestion to Dodo, that he takes a closer look at Malaysia?

24 January 2012 at 13:30  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oswin

Have you?

24 January 2012 at 22:31  
Blogger srizals said...

Just a suggestion, Oswin. It's not compulsory. Be with God.

24 January 2012 at 22:58  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

srizals

So tell us, what is Malaysia like these days for Christians? Is the climate suspicious and hostile as reported by Christians? And, do you think it acceptable for it to be illegal to tell others about the Christian faith?

24 January 2012 at 23:07  
Blogger srizals said...

Like the world and your body Dodo, Malaysia is full of colours.

I don't think it's illegal to tell others about the Christian faith; in fact, I'm all in favour for either open or closed continuous dialogues between the two faiths.

Our experiences with Christians in the past do influence our perception, not considering current injustices and barbarism around the world nowadays and how indifferent most people are.

Some Muslims in Malaysia are afraid of course, of their own shadow since they have forgotten the important aspects about Islam and ignored most of their responsibilities in fulfilling the rights of people around them and thus, forgot to spread and implement the message of Muhammad s.a.w. even to their own children and youth and foremost to their own selves; upholding justice and righteousness, especially to the ones in dire needs that are prone to manipulation. So now some are paying the price of neglect. The Muslims that didn’t forget their duties remained as they are, undaunted.

For your information, not one Christian is being ‘gently persecuted’ with referendum and laws or being 'economically disadvantaged' for who they are. None are being ignored and threatened because of their faith in Malaysia.

How about Muslims in your country? Should there be any reason for concern, Dodo?

25 January 2012 at 14:21  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo @ 22:31: have I what; a copy of Helen Ellerbe's book? Got it cheap awhile ago, via Amazon.

It's an interesting but 'bitty' and variable read; but I don't think you would enjoy it much Dodo. Not unless you fancy an aplolectic fit, that is!

25 January 2012 at 15:53  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

srizals

I'm sympathetic towards you - not oppossed. I don't have a great deal of knowledge about the intricacies of Islam but the version we hear in the West is something that troubles me.

Yes, I think there is cause for concern about the position of Muslims in Britain and this is not being helped by Islamists.

Oswin

From what I know I won't be reading it! Most Christian reviewers regard it as one sided (and somewhat pagan) in actually understanding the causes of the violent history of the Christian Church.

We know, don't we, the Church went astray? The reasons are complex too. It's one of the reasons I think we should adopt a more considered approach to Islam - it's different in different parts of the world.

Hope you've got a copy of 'Church History in Plain Language' by Bruce Shelley too. Apparently, its recommended as a more balanced account.

25 January 2012 at 20:52  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oswin

I meant taken a closer look at Malaysia!

26 January 2012 at 01:46  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: my apologies; my head was full of pre 'Burns Supper' thoughts; and now it's stuffed with post Burns fug!

I don't pretend to any great knowledge re' Malay States/Borneo, but due to a mix of family/friendly ties, both old and not so old, I pay a little more attention than might otherwise be the case.

More recently, I've browsed the ''Malaysian Insider'' - a most impressive publication!

I find the Iban/Dayak peoples are particularly fascinating. If I had my time over again, I would have loved to have spent a few years meandering the States.

Malaysia is very much a 'work in progress' and could go either way; all a bit of a knife-edge job, at present. Credit where it is due though, so far it is doing better than many places with far less disparate peoples. Whether they manage to assauge the 'dark heart' within (and without!) is yet to be seen.

26 January 2012 at 13:36  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oswin
I'm no expert but I do think its worth engaging in a discussion with srizals and he does seem a fairly reasonable and personal chap to me.

"Burn's Supper!? Is that where grown men dress in skirts and pay homage to a stuffed sheeps belly? Oh, and everyone joins in Scotland's favourite past time - drinking whiskey?

26 January 2012 at 16:23  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: that'll be 'whisky' minus the 'e' of course ... I'll leave you to quaff the Oirish stuff.

Mind you, I have to admit that I don't go a bundle on having whisky alongside my food.

26 January 2012 at 23:11  
Blogger Dodo the Renatus Dude said...

Oswin, I agree, food does tend to confuse matters. And there is only one correct spelling of whiskey.

27 January 2012 at 00:49  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo : agreed, 'whisky' it is; any other would be some foul Oirish impersonation.... don't you make it from potatoes or something? Does it have 'e' numbers perhaps???

28 January 2012 at 02:17  

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