Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Has Cameron accepted cash to dilute commitment to gay marriage?

This might seem an utterly bizarre and completely contradictory question to ask after His Grace’s earlier post asking precisely the opposite. Well, it is. And here’s why.

The ‘eagle-eyed’ Roman Catholic Deacon Nick Donnelly (who runs the not-so-excellent Protect the Pope blog) did indeed spot an intriguing tweet by the Sunday Times Insight team, but got completely the wrong end of the crozier. His Grace was sufficiently trusting to believe the contents of the Pope blog (yes, he should have learned centuries ago...) and wrote his own article before checking sources. He apologises. To be fair to Deacon Nick, he did send His Grace the new evidence the moment he discoverd it. And it transpires that the 'eminent donor’ mentioned by Peter Cruddas was actually lobbying the Conservative Party against gay marriage.

But His Grace isn’t going to hastily redact his earlier post or surreptitiously delete it before it is embedded irrevocably and forever in the search engines of the world. No, he will not do that, not least because he said: “...this is not a question of being pro or anti same-sex marriage; it is a question of honesty, integrity and transparency”. And that remains absolutely the case.

The revelation that a wealthy ‘eminent donor’ has lobbied the Conservative Party to change its policy on gay marriage is actually rather more seismic. For Peter Cruddas is quoted by The Daily Telegraph as saying: “We’ve fed that (the donor’s anti-gay marriage paper) back into the party and there are some brilliant points in it and his voice has been heard.”

Brilliant points? His voice has been heard?

In the context of the apparently inexorable drive for same-sex marriage, this statement appears to make no sense at all. Unless...

...the ‘consultation’ presently being undertaken were suddenly to include the question which both David Cameron and Equalities Minister Lynne Featherstone have hitherto maintained would not be included because it simply isn’t on the agenda. The position has consistently been that same-sex marriage is equal, fair, just, and the right thing to do, so the Government is going to legislate for it. Indeed, for the Prime Minister it is the Conservative (if not the conservative) thing to do, and for all Liberal Democrats it is self-evidently the liberal (if not the democratic) thing to do. The ‘consultation’ has been concerned exclusively with the staggeringly narrow but politically expedient ‘how’, rather than the socially responsible and morally imperative ‘if’.

Has this ‘eminent donor’ (male, heterosexual?) just used his considerable wealth to shift the policy? Are we about to see the re-engagement of David Cameron’s political antennae, along with a subtle acknowledgement that ‘gay marriage’ is oxymoronically incomprehensible if not naturally offensive to many faith groups (including target Muslim and Sikh voters); that it would create apparently insurmountable problems for the Established Church; and that it is actually not a human right recognised by the ECtHR? However the policy is amended, diluted, or re-presented, Peter Cruddas has basically assured us that the Coalition 4 Marriage voice ‘has been heard’, which is bound to upset the Coalition 4 Equal Marriage. And rightly so.

His Grace asks again (this time in the hope of being joined by #Gays4Cranmer), is it not right, just and proper for the identity of this ‘eminent donor’ to be disclosed, along with the contents of his paper?

62 Comments:

Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

D P Marchessini (?)

27 March 2012 at 14:19  
Blogger Graham said...

I imagine it will be "Mr Copper".

27 March 2012 at 14:21  
Blogger bluedog said...

Tick tock, tick tock, time and tide wait for no man, Your Grace.

Faced by insurmountable opposition to SSM, Dave may have miraculously found a sugar-daddy who has crossed his palm with silver and caused a re-think. Plan B will merely require deferral of SSM legislation until after the next general election. By playing for time, Dave can please both the pro and anti camps, so to speak. To the Pro's Dave says, its going to happen, trust me, but we need more time to redraft the entire constitution. To the Anti's he says, it's on the back-burner till 2016 at least, call that never.

But even if Dave has escaped in the Nick of time on SSM, the real time bomb has yet to detonate.

Noticed the tweets emanating from the Murdoch mobile? What are the chances of Rupert coming to Dave's rescue regarding L'Affaire Brooks? Absolutely nil in the view of this communicant.

As His Grace has recently observed, revenge is a dish best served cold, and my-o-my, isn't Murdoch preparing for feast of his life.

It's Dave on toast.

27 March 2012 at 14:33  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Please let it be Cardinal O'Brien using church funds or aome past account set up by Roberto Calvi. :)

27 March 2012 at 15:32  
Blogger Jon said...

LOL @ Gays4Cranmer.

You may not be a man of 'the family', but you could still be a man for 'the family'!

Yes - I think the name of the donor should be disclosed. What possible justification could there be for not disclosing it? Disclosure will ensure that the business interests of the donor can suffer commensurately when their identity becomes clear.

27 March 2012 at 15:41  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Could be Jesus. Hurried back to the world to put a stop to gay marriage...

27 March 2012 at 19:00  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

OIG:
Could not have been him. He did not have Judas with him and the purse containing the £250K

27 March 2012 at 19:16  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

But Integrity, surely Cameron is today’s Judas; selling out Conservative principles for a cheque. And then Jesus said “As I’m here, might as well hang around for the end. No point going back at this late stage”

27 March 2012 at 19:21  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Your Grace,
No matter which way round it was, it is not good that money allows one to talk. Yes we want to be able to communicate to the PM our views, but if money is the criteria, then all is lost.

27 March 2012 at 19:21  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Rather reminds the Inspector of Victorian politicians like Lord Randolph Churchill who would extol the virtues of the Empire in the morning and go brothelling in the afternoon. Somehow, that seems more honest than what Cameron is doing with his paying guests...

27 March 2012 at 19:27  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

It'll be a Jesuit. Trust me!

27 March 2012 at 21:20  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

Your Grace,

The thought that a Prime Minister could be brided -IN ANY EVENT- makes me shudder. That it is a British Prime Minister sends a hot shiver down my reptile like spine! I thought I had got my temporal space-time co-ordinates correct- that I was about to witness the 'golden-age' of Great Britain and Mars, firmly under the leadership of Prime Minister Gove and Deputy Farage? I have clearly gotten it wrong- hmmm, it looks like that temporal co-ordinate is really a stain from a class of Famous Grouse Whisky!

27 March 2012 at 21:38  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

PS - Your Grace, I might need to entertain an emergency temporal shift, as we are in need of the brave soldiers of your blog, perhaps even the co-ordinates to the space-time rift which allows you to converse from the 16th century to the 21st (although your blog has a following of circa 6 trillion by 2240) -we need D Singh, Inspector,Dodo, Albert, Len, Danjo, Lord Lavendon,Ernsty, Cressia De Nova and the Kavanaghs [I have left out Carl Jacobs, as he cannot meet his future great, great, great, great, great, grandaughter or Mrs President as we know her]!

Whilst the allies have re-taken Northumbria in a glorious battle at Hexam Ridge, the Holy Cheloina Empire is raging throughout the galaxy, declaring that it will "purge the stars of the unbelievers"; 330,000 humans from Danjo-gay IV were murdered in the most unspeakable way; on Maria VIII 600,000 Christians were cruxified upside down; the Celtic Confederacy is on her knees!.

Save for the human's key -and loyal- ally - the Alpha Draconis Imperium- the rest of the galatic powers stand by and watch whilst a bloody war rages throught the heavens, whilst humans and Draconis are exterminated en masse!

Both my father, Emperor of the Draconis Imperium and President Carly Jacobs have called for resistance to the tyranny at all costs!

27 March 2012 at 21:47  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr Alpha Draconis @ 21.38, your view across the space-time continuum is by no means warped. In the view of this communicant, Dave's premiership is rapidly descending into perpetual crisis, and he is the problem. The solution may lie outside the Cameron-Osborne cabal. The only problem with your proposed solution is that one can't imagine UKIP throwing the Conservatives a life-line at present. UKIP need to wait until they are electorally significant so that they can deal from a position of strength and screw the Conservative rump, as the Lib-Dems have done.

Certainly it is hard to see Dave retaining authority within the Parliamentary Conservative Party as his position continues to deteriorate. The Parliamentary party will be looking for a safe pair of hands to get them to the next election. Quite how a change of PM would play with the Lib-Dems remains to be seen.

27 March 2012 at 22:00  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace,

A Tory PM charging £250,000 for access to himself? I thought it was only the socialists who were "cabs for hire"? I'll be going UKIP if this Gilbert and Sullivan farce continues much longer.

27 March 2012 at 22:05  
Blogger non mouse said...

Yuck.

27 March 2012 at 22:06  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

PS @ Alpha

As none of His Grace's communicants have 'ray guns' etc, I am not sure of what use we will be to you. And in any case, you have forgotten Blue Dog!

Also , Carl Jacobs cannot- if he is to travel to the future- be in risk of meeting is great, great,great etc grandaughter... in fact if we are to be serious it should be that Carly Jacobs will be in danger of meeting her great, great, great -etc-grandfather?

PS- I thought Chelonia were Tortoises and Turtles? Hardly the stuff of Science fiction- think Kingon, Dalek or something like that...!!

Your plot lines have all the hall marks of a julian fellows series!

27 March 2012 at 22:12  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

I say Lavendon, you’re not closely involved with a certain spacemen are you ? The Archbishop will not be pleased; indeed, he abhors dual nationality, so to speak. Thought you should know this, old man.

27 March 2012 at 22:16  
Blogger Hannah Goldstein (Nee Kavanagh -Baptist) said...

@ Office of Inspector General,

One of my lady friends said you can 'beam her up any day' (and she is 45, so about the right age and she is a raving catholic).

27 March 2012 at 22:23  
Blogger Hannah Goldstein (Nee Kavanagh -Baptist) said...

@Inspector,

Joking aside, are you suggesting that Alpha and Lord Lavendon are one and the same? Isn't that like suggesting you and Len are one and the same blogger?

Wow, this site is really confusing. I think Dodo warned me that not everyone here is as he appears to be... So could Dodo be Lord Lavendon and Alpha too?

27 March 2012 at 22:26  
Blogger Hannah Goldstein (Nee Kavanagh -Baptist) said...

Or is it like a double bluff- Inspector is really Lord Lavendon AND Alpha (and possibly Len)?

27 March 2012 at 22:27  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

@Inspector,

I'm a big sci-fi fan, ergo my interest in Alpha's little paradox.

@ Hannah Goldstein, I am not the inspector nor Alpha, could I be Dodo?.

27 March 2012 at 22:33  
Blogger anna anglican said...

Your Grace,

I would happily become 'Gays4Cranmer' as I agree with 99% of what you say, but disagree with the 1% against gay people.

I just disagree with the fact the the PM could make this into a question of the highest bidder- the issue of gay marriage and future society should not rest with those of the deepest pockets- whether they are pro- or anti- this legislation. We are a democracy and this is how inclusion should be won.

The Anglican Church is reasonably broad and loving Church, but there comes a time when they have to chose.

Anglicans need to go forward in inclusion or retreat into bigotry. Become relevant and cast off the vile homophobia and misogyny of the Conservative-Evangelicals.

It's a no brainer. Is love and acceptance better than hate and division?

Personally, I'd rather be in a a small club of like minded people than a large club full of discord.

27 March 2012 at 22:49  
Blogger anna anglican said...

PS- Time for Dodo to come out with his usual homophoblic comments! I wonder how he would cope with the list of well loved gay Irish people??!

27 March 2012 at 22:51  
Blogger anna anglican said...

PPPS- I think that Lord Lavendon is a more handsome gent that Inspector- no bushy tash- and so far no homophoblic/sexist comments!

27 March 2012 at 23:01  
Blogger non mouse said...

Lord Lavendon: could I be Dodo now that's a little wicked! I've always thought your contributions well above that level!

Soo - unless your tastes have suddenly devolved into the schoolyard level so dear to the RC newcomer...

27 March 2012 at 23:12  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Jolly good show Hannah. Inspector duly notes your friend’s interest. Same age as the Senior Nurse he’s sweet on. Len has absolutely no imagination. A rather pitiful chap, what !

Come on Anna. Once we have you in the family way, several times over, you’ll have no time for this furry cup nonsense. And a good thing too, don’t you think !

27 March 2012 at 23:12  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

@ Inspector,

Lord Lavendon and I are not related and in normal circumstances I would duel you to the death![I can meddle in the time line, but should a major alteration will have me dematerialised!).

But my heart is weeping for my beloved planet- 100,000 years of civilisation wiped out in 100 galactic seconds...

The evil Chelonia launched a WMD upon my races home system and sent our stars nova- 150 billion of my people are dead!

Wow shall we revenge this wicked war crime upon the free peoples of the cosmos!

27 March 2012 at 23:15  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna

Well it's good to see you've got over your little paddy and have reurned as the gentle and polite young woman we all love.

Since we last spoke I've untaken Diversity Training and very poerful it was too. You see, I didn't appreciate we are all conditioned and socialised into making sense of the world through prejudice.

No more 'homophobic' from me.

Jesus loves you Anna and he will help you avoid temptation if you trust in Him.

Ps
Has your twin's (forgotten her name - Rachel?) boyfriend go down on one knee voluntarily yet? And is the mother of three, soon to be four (name?), keeping well and managing to keep up with the cooking and housework?

27 March 2012 at 23:15  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

Your Grace,

Prime Minister Lord Antony "Tony" William Gordon Michael Gove, 3rd Viscount of Surrey Heath and Notting Hill Mons, has address the British Space Nation :


"This is a battle between the free and democratic galaxy and the unspeakable war criminals who think nothing of mass murder and galatic terrorism.

We therefore here in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Mars, on behalf of the Albion Commonwealth and as President Jacobs has already said of behlaf of all human worlds and in particular ,we Anglo-Martians, stand shoulder to shoulder with our Alpha Draconis friends in this hour of tragedy….

This mass genocide is the new evil in our galaxy today. It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly indifferent to the sanctity of life and we, the democracies of this galaxy- Britain, The Earth Union, Venus, The Belt Allianz, The Habsburg Empire, the Communion, Liberty, Novobroski, Alpha Draconis, K'hari, Alpha Centuari, the Zen and many more, are going to have to come together to fight it together and eradicate this evil completely from our galaxy.

The British Space Empire will continue- as it as been for the past one hundred and fifty years, as the arsenal of Imperial Democracy throughout the civilized worlds".

27 March 2012 at 23:39  
Blogger bluedog said...

anna anglican @ 22.49 says 'Anglicans need to go forward in inclusion or retreat into bigotry'. Oh dear, anna, why do you see things only in binary terms?

Consider the following and think of the possible combinations:

Heterophile
Heterophobe
Homophile
Homophobe

Consider too the latest thoughts from ++ Rowan, who has made some very perceptive remarks about the trend towards Identity politics. How can the obession with Identity be anything other than pure selfishness and what is inclusive about that?

Mr Alpha Draconis @ 123.39, you seem to have left out the resurgent Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as delineated by the Visegrad Group.

27 March 2012 at 23:44  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

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27 March 2012 at 23:45  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna the anglican said ...
"Is love and acceptance better than hate and division?

You've confused things here. Is acceptance of unacceptable behaviour and outlook really love?

"Personally, I'd rather be in a a small club of like minded people than a large club full of discord."


I guess it depends on who is causing the discord and whether there exists a way of resolving differences according to scripture and God's revealed will.

Here's a little poem written by a woman many years ago. She's worth reading.

The New Vainglory?
Two men went up to pray; and one gave thanks,
Not with himself - aloud;
With proclamation, calling on the ranks
Of an attentive crowd.

"Thank God, I clap not my own humble breast,
But other ruffians' backs;
Imputing crime - such is my tolerant haste -
To any man that lacks.

"For I am tolerant, generous, keep no rules,
And the age honors me,
Thank God, I am not as these rigid fools,
Even as this Pharisee."

(Alice Meynell)

27 March 2012 at 23:50  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna

Sorry yo be rude but your sister Hannah is funnier and such a gossip too.

27 March 2012 at 23:57  
Blogger anna anglican said...

@ Dodo, what about people who are in same sex relationships who are living faithfully and lovingly for life; we are Christians must address the issue of faithful, same sex relationships. We have had the experience of civil partnerships for six years now and it is right that the government reviews the current positions.

27 March 2012 at 23:59  
Blogger anna anglican said...

@Dodo, my sister is very kind and intelligent- she has more degrees than I will ever have.

*Sigh*

28 March 2012 at 00:01  
Blogger anna anglican said...

@Alpha, so sorry to hear about the loss of your homeworld... Hope the story ends better xxxx

28 March 2012 at 00:02  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna
Sorry the only choice is a chaste life together. And I'm not saying this to be provocative or hurtful.

In Archbishop Nicholl's words:

"Love: “Love” must never be thought of as being synonymous with “sex”. Love can take many forms: between husband and wife, between parents and children, between relatives as well as the chaste love of friendship.

Neither a heterosexual nor a homosexual orientation leads inevitably to sexual activity. Yet, in the context of the Church’s sexual moral teaching, a same-sex orientation can tend towards actions which are contrary to that teaching.

Sexual orientation does not dictate the whole personality and character of an individual. Furthermore,a person’s sexual orientation can be unclear, even complex. Also, it may vary over the years. Most importantly, an orientation is not a moral failing.

The Catholic Church advocates and defends the fundamental human rights of every person. But the Church cannot acknowledge among fundamental human rights a supposed “right” to acts which she teaches to be morally wrong."

28 March 2012 at 00:10  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna

Don't even try the cutie, poor little me, angle here. We've know you run marathons and arm wrestle! And, metaphorically speaking, have 'balls' - actually, that's a sexist remark, according to my recent training, but you know what I mean.

28 March 2012 at 00:16  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

The comments on this site have become more bizare than the cash for Dinner fiasco.

28 March 2012 at 00:22  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace,

If I may suggest to our Alien visitor, that he is perhaps on the wrong blog? Some good stories, but I would suggest that they are not relevant to the discussion. So I invite Alpha Draconis to e-mail me in respect of sci-fi writing. I am sure that this will help him and you, given that his writing are not really for this blog.

28 March 2012 at 00:22  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Mr I said "The comments on this site have become more bizare than the cash for Dinner fiasco".

I agree, hence my post (above) to the Alpha, in an attempt to compromise before His Grace shows his wrath and starts vetting very post that comes on here- I do not think that he means badly, but I do think he is on the wrong blog!

28 March 2012 at 00:25  
Blogger anna anglican said...

@Dodo, cutie,not sure when I came across as a " poor little me, angle".
As the US Marine Corps say "One Mind, ANY weapon"

In any case I am just in the hot room with only a bikini on...

PS- Ever heard of the Sayeret?

28 March 2012 at 00:38  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Eh? Anna Anglican,

*nothing but my bikini* -Leading all the men to temptation!

The Sayeret are the commando/Special Forces of Israel; like our SAS/Royal Marines rolled into one. You cannot seriously be suggesting that you've had training from them?

(but if you have - jolly good show- anything in the defence of the realm!).

28 March 2012 at 00:48  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna

Are you family of Jewish descent and/or is your father a Minister? All you Kavanaugh sprogs have Old Testament names and I know one of your brothers is in Israel and his wife has just completed a spell in the IDF. And now reference to the Sayeret.

I ask because my father is Jewish. He converted to Catholicism after World War 11 and married an Irish Catholic woman.

So far as you being in a bikini is concerned, you could be in the buff my girl and it wouldn't make a bit of difference to me. At 33 years you are way too young and being a faithful married man I put impure thoughts of younger women out of my mind.

So,come on, spill the beans. Did Rachel's boyfriend propose or not?

28 March 2012 at 01:02  
Blogger Atlas Shrugged said...

How can the obsession with Identity be anything other than pure selfishness and what is inclusive about that?

I would not go as far to say it is pure selfishness, but it is most certainly divisive and very much intended to be so.

I hope I am about to explain WHY.

We are all in one giant club of Gods creation, known as human beings, but also the smallest of all, known as an individual human being.

All other groups by which we are arbitrarily classified, are usually dangerous, always divisive, and only serve the needs of ever more GOVERNMENT, not ever the poor individuals who find themselves thus categorized.

Like many of the rest of you, when I was young I genuinely believed that not only was I born a free person in a free country, but would one day soon enough, find myself to be living in an ever more free world.

Myself and many others had been lead to believe that things like sexism, racism, and most of all the other 'isms would eventually become distant memories.

Getting older brings many things, not all of them bad, but to say that I am disappointed with how things have actually turned out as far as freedom is concerned, would be a massive understatement.

Perhaps I was simply far too optimistic in the first place?

Perhaps the problem was that I never was neither born free, nor lived in a free country in the first place: I was indeed self deluded?

Myself like many others at that time believed that our main problem resided within places like far leftist Trades Unions, communist countries, and the demented ravings of self hating, more then a little mad aristocrats like Tony Ben.

In the days of The Cold War it never occurred to people myself that our own establishment was more MARXIST then the communist dictators on the other side of the Berlin Wall.

However this is our TRUE reality whether we like or fully understand it or not.

At or near the very top of the pyramid there is no such thing as left or right, only us or them.

The people at the top of course hate each other with a vengeance and so are constantly at each others throats as much as they dare, however the thing they really hate and fear with a pathological passion is there own common people.

( Sorry if this is simply stating the obvious to you, but believe it or not some people are incapable of believing the evidence provided by their own eyes. )

It is these emotions which binds them all together in the time of their tribulation.

We on the other hand are bound by our own universally common interest, and innate empathy for our fellow creations, what is more we out number these characters by around 20 million to one. Which I hope you will agree is the sort of odds which would worry anyone, even someone armed with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

This is why they wish to inflict upon us by any method imaginable ever more identity politics. In other words to replace, or further enhance the more overt murderous racism, warmongering nationalism, endemic poverty, wholly corrupted scripture, almost universal illiteracy, savage economic booms and busts, and other old tried and tested stuff with which our masters used more to control their unfortunate populations with in the past.

28 March 2012 at 01:15  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Lord Lavendon
Good evening, Sir.

If I may be so bold and with our gracious host's leave, may I point out this is a catholic blog and very tolerant.

Our alien visitor has freedom of expression and should our host become bored or irritated he will, I'm sure, take any action he deems appropriate.

Ps
He gave me a right doin' recently for correcting a Yank's spelling and asking him to use the Queen's English. You have been warned.

28 March 2012 at 01:15  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Atlas

Dear man, when climbing out of a pit and having reached the mid-way point, stop and ask yourself:

Am I halfway up or halfway down?

Well?

28 March 2012 at 01:19  
Blogger Atlas Shrugged said...

Dear Dodo

The rather obvious answer is both at the same time, and your point is?

You problem among many others is that as a RC you are so conditioned to existing within a structure of unquestioned top down hierarchical control, that you actually like it that way, indeed your types can not even conceive that life as we know it could function any other way.

Myself on the other hand don't like being instructed what to do and mind controlled into how to think by people I will never know, and know would never want to know me.

You ask for evidence for my assertions. I would have thought that if the evidence is not by now self apparent to yourself the moment you finally opened your own eyes, then all other evidence would be equally ignored.

Understanding is only for those capable of such a thing, the fact that you are clearly incapable is not my problem, it is yours.

28 March 2012 at 02:33  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Atlas

You see, the answer is not obvious. I would see it as being half-way up, not mid-way or half-down.

And how silly to think I prefer being instructed! I chose freely and after much time and reflection, to believe in what I believe.

It seems to me, and I am going to be unkind here, that you are trapped in adolescence. Life has disappointed you in some way. You've got two choices: either lower your expectations and be thankful for what you have achieved or do something positive about it.

Stop imagining some mysterious organisation is holding you back. The world once was and can still be your oyster.

28 March 2012 at 02:45  
Blogger anna anglican said...

@Dodo, my mother is a Mizrahi Jew and my father comes from Rhodesia (before Mugabe's thugs got the upper hand that is!), although we think that side of the family is from Ireland somewhere. Guess I'm an African-Irish- British-Anglican-Jew if you want to boil things down.

Cue Corrigan1 *rants* about Zionist-Christian- British Imperialism!

28 March 2012 at 23:16  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Anna. Always good to see ‘Rhodesia’ in print. It is ironical that the current name of the country is after a stone fortification that was clearly built by non Africans, possibly Arabs, probably Asians, and upon invitation to do so...

28 March 2012 at 23:31  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Anna

An African-Irish-British-Anglican-Jew!

I'm a Catholic-Irish-Jew.

This is probably why we get on so well ;o)

29 March 2012 at 00:52  
Blogger Oswin said...

Ah, and people disparage the notion of 'good breeding'! ;o)

29 March 2012 at 22:25  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Oswin: We cannot all be descendants of Royalty and Saints!

Ps
Isn't there a Methodist somewhere in your stock?

29 March 2012 at 22:49  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: yep, a Methodist, you're right; well done you! Fortunately, my Methodist Mother is of ancient, Welsh lineage; so honour maintained, as it were. ;o)

30 March 2012 at 02:52  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Oswin: Welsh! I won't tell if you don't. Long live the Celts! (And the Jews, of course!)

30 March 2012 at 11:03  
Blogger Oswin said...

Diolch yn fawr Dodo; llai dywedodd y gorau! :o) (hopes no Welsh speakers are around!)

31 March 2012 at 21:00  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

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31 March 2012 at 21:23  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

Tá céad fáilte romhat, Oswin. Tá Mamaí an focal!

31 March 2012 at 21:27  
Blogger len said...

Money talks and the god of Cameron is obviously 'fiscal'the god of bankers.

Those who come to worship at the shrine leave their offerings and a quick prayer that their tax break comes soon.

Obviously works for them!.

1 April 2012 at 08:35  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: thank you old chap, very decent of you - I think! I'm afraid I'm better with Scots Gaelic than with Erse.

1 April 2012 at 14:49  

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