Thursday, March 22, 2012

The new face of UKIP

They are ripe for a persuasive poster campaign and abundantly telegenic for a TV broadcast. It is the sort of defection for which a party leader would engineer all manner of internal selection procedures to ensure high-profile and swift advancement. When the Conservative Party is losing families like this to UKIP - young, vibrant, politically active and holding office - perhaps the Cameron/Maude detoxification/modernisation process has gone a step too far.

For years, UKIP have been dogged with being the Dad's Army of British politics, with their absurd tanks and taxis, buses and balloons, crass campaign slogans, pound badges and a leadership of beer-swilling exhibitionists and elderly cranks. They may not all be, but they certainly have given the consistent appearance of being 'fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists'.

But when a former Conservative mayor of the true blue Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead decides to defect, citing the Budget as the 'last nail in the coffin', it merits rather more scrutiny than CCHQ are prepared to give (if they even care). Cllr Catherine Bursnall, and her husband, Cllr Tom Bursnall, said in a joint statement: "After a combined 24 years of loyal service, and having pushed more leaflets through more doors than we wish to remember, it is with some regret that we have this evening decided to leave the Conservative Party and join UKIP. It is no longer the party for the aspirational 'go getter', no longer the moral crusader for a lower taxed nation, and no longer the party that trumps meritocracy over political gesture."

And they are not alone in thinking this, or feeling it. And in an age which is governed by the random emotions of ordinary people, the feeling is rather more important than the thinking. It is perhaps intrinsic to postmodernity that logic and reason are complemented by emotion and appeals to the spiritual, and UKIP is pressing buttons of sovereignty, patriotism and Christian spirituality which the Conservative Party has exchanged for europhilia, environmentalism and gay marriage.

The Conservative Party’s historical focus on the economy, law and order, defence, patriotism, immigration, over-regulation, tax reduction, and their support for private enterprise, traditional marriage and the family, are now largely issues which are barely spoken of. They are harsh, masculine, rugged, abrasive, and no longer constitute the stuff of Tory politics. The modernisation process is concerned with the feminine, the delicate, the touchy-feely policies designed to appeal to the Guardianistas of Notting Hill. Conservative politics is no longer the pursuit of policy that works, but policy that feels right to Francis Maude. And he is spectacularly misjudging the mood of the nation.

At UKIP's recent Spring Conference (the Conservative one was cancelled due to 'lack of interest'), they not only had the star turns of Nigel Farage, distinguished economist Tim Congdon, and the newly-defected MEP Roger Helmer: they boasted a former deputy chairman of Conservative Future, Alexandra Swann, and former chief inspector of schools Sir Chris Woodhead who urged a return to selection by academic ability.

This is not the future of UKIP: it is the present. Going and gone are the bowler hats and caricature gadflies; coming in is a new generation of reasonable, rational, moderate and utterly normal men and women who favour and support low taxation, grammar schools, national defence, patriotism, low immigration, heterosexual marriage, and withdrawal from the EU. You know, the sort of people who might once have voted Conservative.


Blogger Derek T Northcote said...


The BNP for people with mortgages.

22 March 2012 at 10:39  
Blogger genghis said...

Your Grace is not alone in your musings on the thinking of many long-time supporters of the Tory Party, and it is perhaps fitting that the one thing which tipped many over the edge and away from the Party they have supported through thick and thin is a single 'simplification' comment from a liar and a fool.

22 March 2012 at 10:49  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

What is to become of the last of the traditionalists like me who are still members of the Conservative Party?

More and more people around me are saying that they will vote UKIP – these are people who have been loyal to the Party for years.

I just feel that my party has entered into a ‘death spiral’: as more and more Conservatives leave and join UKIP – the more the Conservative Party adopts left-liberal positions – which in turn trigger more resignations and defections to UKIP.

Why can’t the Party see that the left-liberals are not going to vote for the Conservatives because there are two left-liberal parties to choose from?

22 March 2012 at 10:59  
Blogger Jocelyn Knockersbury said...

"And in an age which is governed by the random emotions of ordinary people". What an odious piece of snobbery that is.

22 March 2012 at 11:01  
Blogger D. Singh said...


Observe for yourself: we live in an age where moral categories are destroyed - emotion trumps reason.

22 March 2012 at 11:02  
Blogger haddock said...

It is not a case of conservatives leaving the party...the party has left them.
If you want to work for/vote for old fashioned conservative ideals then UKIP is the only choice.

22 March 2012 at 11:20  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Your Grace,
What did I say to you about the right time? Will this be your choice of direction?
A word of warning. Policies and Leadership are not the same. If the leaders move away from the policies, you are back to square one.

22 March 2012 at 12:03  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...

"The modernisation process is concerned with the feminine, the delicate, the touchy-feely ..."

The age of the feminism and the pussy whipped, effiminate man has dawned.

22 March 2012 at 13:13  
Blogger therealguyfaux said...

One wonders, YG, if to some extent UKIP aren't buying into the Adam-Savage-Mythbusters tack: "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!" That is to say, they are taking on the media portrayal, all too true in particular instance perhaps, of their being risible cranks, and saying, Yes, but what do you say about HIM, and HIM, and HER, and THEM? Dismiss us at your peril! By doing so, they can score points with those who may feel, as many do, that the MSM are all one big cartel amongst whom competition is merely illusory. They can now say, Well, of course you haven't been getting the straight dope, what would you expect from those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo? If they're wrong about who we are, isn't it likely they're wrong in their articulation of our basic assumptions, from which we derive our policies? UKIP must, however, make sure that they do not make the population think too much, as this has a tendency to make people want to shy away from Party Politics altogether-- those on the one hand who can't be arsed to think, and hence do not care, or vote, and on the other hand those who think and care too much and have realised that there is nothing to be gained by doing anything more than strategic voting, i.e. "anyone but Labour, so while I agree with UKIP, to vote for them elects Labour."

22 March 2012 at 13:48  
Blogger Libertarian said...

Derek T Northcote:
"UKIP. The BNP for people with mortgages."
BNP is a far-left organisation, nearer to Conservative than conservative.
UKIP for me from now on, in the hope that Tories and Labour will collapse and we can get some proper political parties back - you know - with beliefs and principles and everything.

22 March 2012 at 13:58  
Blogger Bill Quango MP said...

Your Grace

UKIP have to find a seat that has overwhelming support for their views and throw everything into gaining it.
Then they have an MP and all the media attention that being a minority brings.

the Lucas party targeted a town with a largely young, semi-affluent, unusually high proportion of homosexual, student and drug taking individuals,with a high number of media and digital economy jobs and a high number in public sector employment. And a large number of unemployed, dysfunctional and disabled citizens for the state to cater for.

A perfect incubator for the Greens to hatch.

Where did UKIP score its nearest success? That is where they must go and go often.

Until they get an MP they will just be a single issue party making an occasional foray onto the panel of Question Time.

Or, they could bribe a sitting MP to defect. Just a suggestion, not an offer.

22 March 2012 at 14:07  
Blogger Old Blue Eyes said...

I am an octogenarian who has supported (some times actively) the Conservative party all my adult life.For many years I have longed for my country to throw off the shackles of EU membership.I have considered that the only way that could be achieved was through a Conservative government and that any vote for UKIP that helped to defeat a Conservative candidate was akin to shooting oneself in the foot. I have now changed my view. As long as my party is led by David Cameron there is no chance of us leaving the EU. Only defeat at the next election will see him dethroned. I shall vote UKIP until that comes about.

22 March 2012 at 14:17  
Blogger Owl said...

People who decide to vote for/join UKIP have not left the Conservative party, they just joined it.

22 March 2012 at 14:30  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

Old Blue Eyes, does that mean that you voted Conservative in 1970 and, even more to the point, in 1974?

22 March 2012 at 14:38  
Blogger Baldric said...

I was of exactly the same opinion as old blue eyes.

I voted UKIP in Euro elections, and Tory in general elections. I thought that the former would send a message, but convinced myself that I couldnt vote UKIP in a general election without risking continued labour victory.

Looking at the track record of this coalition, I know that I deluded myself. There is no appreciable difference in public spending. There is no appreciable difference in welfare dependency. There is no appreciable difference in European policy, foreign policy, immigration policy, fiscal policy or monetary policy.

So why was I so anxious to fudge on my real voting intent? Whats the point in electing Cameron if the outcome is much the same as with Blair?

No point at all.

I hadn't been a member of the CP for some time, but had two spells of membership in the past. Am now a UKIP member.

22 March 2012 at 14:52  
Blogger Hereward said...

perhaps the Cameron/Maude detoxification/modernisation process has gone a step too far.

I reckon its gone a few miles too far.

Defectors don't support UKIP in spite of being Conservatives. They support UKIP because they are Conservatives.

22 March 2012 at 14:54  
Blogger privatefrazer said...

"Defectors don't support UKIP in spite of being Conservatives. They support UKIP because they are Conservatives."
Well said Hereward.

This septuagenarian and former tory voter will be putting a cross against UKIP. If this results in a labour government so be it. At least I, a responsible citizen, will be prepared to expect the worst. And when the next labour government aided by the bbc, has destroyed this pseudo conservative party, it will have been worthwhile!

Dave, I look forward seeing your face soon after the next general election.

Your Grace to succeed Rowan the socialist.

22 March 2012 at 15:18  
Blogger Atlas Shrugged said...

"Defectors don't support UKIP in spite of being Conservatives. They support UKIP because they are Conservatives."
Well said Hereward.

Quite so.

The problem with The Conservative Party becoming less like a conservative party by the day, is that it has ever less incentive to be a conservative party the more votes The UKIP poach from them.

The problem The UKIP have, is that they will likely remain a minority party with no immediate prospect of gaining any seats in parliament.

However they can all look after themselves, and only have themselves to blame for thinking that their opinions matter to anyone but themselves.

Please be reminded that many socialists are as convinced in their own minds that this country, and their own political party have undertaken a large leap to the right, as conservatives are that it, and theirs have done the exact opposite.

There is a highly logical and ever more overtly obvious reason for this.

The thing to remember is that our, Fascist or Corporatist Establishment is now more free today then at any previous time to pursue with resolute vindictiveness any agenda or policy, however acutely unpopular, dangerously authoritarian, radically undemocratic, constitutionally destructive, economically insane, or culturally suicidal.

The old argument as to whether Corporatism/Fascism is left or right wing has never been more to the for.

Surely the answer is becoming ever more clear.

Corporatism/Fascism is neither right nor left wing, or indeed center, it is whatever our Corporatist/Fascist establishment chooses to first propagate into the public consciousness using a variety of methods, and then select from the governing political party to enact in practice.

Those agendas or policies which it either did not propagate, or for the time being wish to ignore, get completely marginalized however clearly popular with the great mass of the public.

Absolute proof, as if any more were needed, that democracy is a sham, and has long since been so. Government is simply another word for controlling mind, or mind control.

As I lost any faith in parliamentary democracy many moons ago, there is little point in concerning myself with the self evident pros and most inevitable cons of The UKIP.

For if they ever got themselves into a position of real influence, it would only prove to myself that they had been totally subverted, and therefore would in practice be perfectly useless.

22 March 2012 at 16:13  
Blogger David Hussell said...

For a lifetime I've been an Anglican one nation Conservative , but now I've finally given up. Gay marriage was the last straw. Cameron and cronies are attacking everything that was previously held precious by Tories. I'm with UKIP now.

22 March 2012 at 16:30  
Blogger Popeye said...

As I told George by e-mail yesterday, UKIP works for me after a lifetime of voting Conservative.
His attack on my pensioner tax allowance was the last straw.

22 March 2012 at 16:59  
Blogger Godfrey Bloom MEP said...

Your Grace, if I may address you so “beer swilling, bowler hatted exhibitionist indeed”. A more sensitive soul than me could be wounded.

Godfrey Bloom
UKIP MEP for Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire

22 March 2012 at 16:59  
Blogger Steve said...

Defectors don't support UKIP in spite of being Conservatives. They support UKIP because they are Conservatives.

Again. Well Said

22 March 2012 at 17:02  
Blogger Damian said...

But when a former Conservative mayor of the true blue Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead decides to defect, citing the Budget as the 'last nail in the coffin',

Not the corruption then? nor the mass rape of young white girls? nor the four illegal wars resulting in the death and mutilation of hundreds of thousands of people? Nor positve discrimination against British people in their own land? Treason? Sedidtion? The spending of millions of pounds on overseas aid whilst our pensioners die of cold?
None of the above seems to have upset him as much as the budget?

Clearly a man of high morals and I am sure a fine addition to the ranks of UKIP.

22 March 2012 at 17:09  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Godfrey Bloom MEP,

With respect, His Grace wasn't referring to you with 'beer-swilling exhibitionist': yours is the 'bowler hat' link.

22 March 2012 at 17:14  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

As a pensioner, and a natural ultra-leftwing "conservative" -Macmillan & Heath - don't knock Heath, the EEC THEN was not the EU today!

I agree.
The theft of my future monies by Tossbourne is really disgraceful.

22 March 2012 at 17:15  
Blogger Lola said...

So, Tories have been girlyfied, whereas UKIP are proper blokes?

Seems about right, on average.

22 March 2012 at 17:40  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Your Grace. There is good news in all this, and there is a precedent for what the Inspector is about to suggest. The most important thing in these desperate times is NOT to split the centre right vote. The precedent is what happened to the socialists. In the early years, the Labour movement found itself in competition with the Co-operative movement. Both parties had a broadly similar interest. They agreed that the Co-ops would field 30 candidates unopposed by the Labour party. The co-op party exists today and they have 29 MPs.

Right then chaps, the Inspector would use his organisational gifts to implement the following…

A) Conservative members allowed to also be UKIP members if they want and vice versa.

B) Each constituency to have a ballot. The two parties come together and vote. One individual, one vote, even if member of both organisations. Decide whether to field a UKIP or Conservative candidate.

C) Each party to RESPECT the other. To enforce this, a joint discipline committee to be formed. Any self serving politician who wishes to exploit differences to be suspended or eventually expelled.

So there you have it. The way forward. If it so transpires that UKIP eventually have more seats than the Conservatives, out of the EU we come. It could all be settled in 10 to 20 years. And just think of the votes you are going to attract from EU hating Liberals and Socialists. In the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions…

David Hussell makes mention of ‘One Nation Conservatism’. Inspector is one of those, don’t you know. Banner is still there, lying in dusty corner of storeroom where IT WAS ABANDONED all those years ago. By all means have it, and bring it to UKIP. Cameron doesn’t need it now, and it will be good for old friends to see it again…

22 March 2012 at 17:58  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

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22 March 2012 at 18:03  
Blogger Roger Mellie said...

"UKIP. The BNP for people with mortgages."

Time to re-evaluate your prejudices. Compare and contrast...

BNP= Neo-fascist
UKIP= Libertarian party

BNP= Overtly racist; supports KKK, wishes to have only whites in the party
UKIP= Has and welcomes members/candidates of all races, non-sectarian.

BNP= Promote mass-nationalisation. Chinese economic model
UKIP= Free-market party

BNP= Isolationist
UKIP= Wishes to have friendly co-operation and trade with rest of Europe

BNP= Wishes to cease all immigration
UKIP= Controlled immigration, on points basis (as of Australia or Canada)

22 March 2012 at 19:11  
Blogger bluedog said...

Well, well, His Grace has crossed the Thames, heading either north or south as the case may be, but definitely away from Conservative Head Office.

Years ago your communicant received a UKIP card in the post, and scrawled on the back were the words, 'These people are the only hope, you don't understand where they're taking us'. The writer was a former Conservative MP of thirteen years service who retired undefeated and who worshipped the ground his contemporary Margaret Thatcher walked on. Until very recently your communicant has ignored that advice, but increasingly it looks as though the old coot was right, yet again.

22 March 2012 at 19:19  
Blogger Peter Thomas said...

UKIP were never what you said they were in paragraph two, Your Grace. And there's a long way yet to go, but, at last, the message appears to be getting through. Praise be!

22 March 2012 at 19:47  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Being despondent with the Conservative Party does not justify a move to an unknown quantity such as UKIP. I sympathize fully with comments on not wanting to waist votes but this is not the only solution. I was in touch with a new Christian Labour MP who had grave concerns over marriage redefinition. Whether he would cross the floor to a new Judaeo/Christian party I don’t know but I do know that those who speak out put their careers on the line. I can’t figure out why Pickles who has been very strong on pro Christian issues has come out in favour of marriage redefinition. Probably leaned on after standing up for prayers in councils.

Inspector, you could turn those rules into some sort of board game and make a small fortune.

22 March 2012 at 20:25  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Even better suggestion Integrity, the bigwigs of both parties (...NOT the leadership...) should get on the phone to each other.

Is this not a case of one head strong brother against a more carefree brother who has let his own standards slide, and is consorting with prostitutes ?

22 March 2012 at 21:26  
Blogger ChrisK said...

To Derek T Northcote:

You say UKIP is BNP for people with mortgages.

If you look at the membership application section of UKIP's website you will see:

"Membership is not available to anyone who is or has previously been a member of the British National Party, National Front, British Freedom Party, British People's Party, English Defence League, Britain First or the UK First Party. Any applications made from people who are or have been members of these organisations will be refused, and any subscriptions collected will be refunded.

By applying for membership you certify that you are not and have never been a member of either of these parties."

Think you owe an apology!

22 March 2012 at 21:57  
Blogger Jack Ketch said...

As someone deeply involved in the Conservative Party and with contacts all the way to the top, I can tell you that Cameron is pissing people off.

In the Labour Party you can do that and get away with it so long as you are in power. Not so in the Tory Party, where it will only be tolerated for so long and then the men will take out their grey suits and visit Downing Street.

22 March 2012 at 22:09  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

ChrisK. You might like to be informed that Northcote is a homosexual and has only recently emerged from the woodwork. When his peoples’, and that includes Cameron, attempt to queer marriage collapses, you won’t hear from Derek T Northcote again...

22 March 2012 at 22:29  
Blogger Unknown said...

But still mostly fruitcakes....

22 March 2012 at 23:10  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dereck T. Northcote @ 10:39 : is the 'T' for 'twerp'?

Your Grace: are you perhaps considering future options?

23 March 2012 at 01:24  
Blogger Nowhere man said...

Derek T Northcote said...
UKIP. The BNP for people with mortgages.

I say.....Labour, the Party for Communists, misfits and people on benefits

23 March 2012 at 06:37  
Blogger IanCad said...

Mr. Bluedog,
Please don't jump ship. Conservatives must take back control of their party.
A "Real Conservative" movement is needed now. If necessary a separate party for the time being.
We must replace the "Wets" and "Cameron's Cuties." Candidate approval must revert to the local level, and, if there is no other option, a parallel representative should run; Under a "Real," "Reform" or "True" banner

23 March 2012 at 07:21  
Blogger len said...

Cameron has made it perfectly clear where his loyalties lie.

'Follow the cash' seem to work quite well in this respect.

23 March 2012 at 07:47  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

I think for many homosexual ‘marriage’ is the last straw.

We care because if the definition of marriage is changed then it affects those who are in the present and those who are yet to be born.

If the definition is changed then there is no logical argument to deny polygamy; ‘marriages’ of siblings etc.

The European Court of Human Rights has made it exceptionally clear in the case of Gas v. France that if a State introduces homosexual marriage then it would be discrimination for churches to deny such pairings a religious wedding.

The churches in turn have made it clear (Rome and Canterbury) that if marriage is redefined then they will not permit any weddings to take place on their premises.

Why should our children be denied religious weddings?

23 March 2012 at 08:29  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

I am neither conservative , Labour or Liberal and to UKIP is the only party left to vote for. As a Patriot I am greatly saddened by the mess this country has become and yet again the only Party to vote for to address this is UKIP. They have my membership, donations and hopes for the future so I hope that the penny is finally dropping among the wider public and UKIP's support will greatly increase.

Obviously those to the Left will try to vilify and smear UKIP the more support it gets but I hope people are getting wise to that now and can see through it for the deception that it is.

23 March 2012 at 10:58  
Blogger Oldrightie said...

When a success beckons those with the most to lose scream and shout, plot and defame. This is very good news if we are to break the tri-party grip on our EU membership.

We need a "UKIP" even if temporarily, to alter the face of globalisation and corruption. I hope theirs is the first of many brave souls prepared to shake off this "loyalty" mantra. It works both ways but loyalty to supporters from all three parties has long been trampled on by those who would be King.

23 March 2012 at 12:08  
Blogger Old Blue Eyes said...

David Lindsay. Yes of course I did vote Conservative in 1970 & 74. If what your getting at is did I vote to join the EU the answer to that is also yes. But I, like most people, thought we were merely joining a free trade area not this federal system to which we are steadily giving up all our independence. I have made few decisions in my lifetime that I now regret but this is certainly one of them.

23 March 2012 at 15:15  
Blogger Dr Evil said...

I will not vote for the conservatives ever again. Not after Cameron's reneging on the referendum, reneging on repealing the Human rights Act, seemingly reneging on a grand repeal act. All this nonsense about homosexual marriage instead of supporting real marriage. So I too will be supporting and voting UKIP.

23 March 2012 at 16:02  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

Ah, Your Grace,

If my space-time co-ordinates are accurate then this is the time of Prime Minister Gove, Deputy PM Farrage and Leader of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition Griffin?

23 March 2012 at 21:11  
Blogger Alpha Draconis said...

Dr Evil is a Vorlon?? Jesus Wept!

23 March 2012 at 21:12  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr IanCad @ 07.21, the Conservative Party no longer represents its custonmary constitutency. The economic policies being persued are generally sound and will work, so no complaints there. But the positions on Europe and the SSM social policy are disasterous. It would not surprise if Dave's position on SSM were to lead to a doubling of UKIP's vote through Tory defection to say, 15%. At the same time the Lib-Dem vote is a stagnant 7%. So Dave has potentially won 7% and lost 15%, not very clever.

Once UKIP gets a quorum of say ten MPs at Westminster, and with 15% that must be achievable, the Conservatives could enter a death spiral. Dave won't reverse course because he knows nothing else. What is so surprising is that Dave has completely lost sight of the 'Aspirational' working class vote which his social policy on SSM will alienate, the Aspirationals are very macho. For years the Tories have been using the Australian political analyst Lynton Crosby, who understands the importance of the Aspirational working class voter. Yet somehow Dave is managing to lose contact with an electoral demographic who could guarantee him an overall majority in his own right. One can only describe this as grossly incompetent leadership.

UKIP seem to understand these electoral dynamics and may brilliantly exploit the Aspirational opportunity. One has to make a decision based on one's view of what is best personally and nationally, and the field is becoming open. Segmenting the Conservative Party into 'Real' and 'Provo' wings doesn't seem right.

23 March 2012 at 22:13  
Blogger Huldah said...

It's a shame that the Conservative party has moved away from its core base. People felt betrayed then and now are being offered a credible alternative home.

24 March 2012 at 10:22  
Blogger Oswin said...

bluedog @ 22:13 : sound reasoning; and although I share IanCad's quandary, I can't see how the Conservative Party can pull back from this seemingly inevitable trend. 'Call me Dave' has proved himself a shambolic, and dangerous fool.

24 March 2012 at 17:21  
Blogger IanCad said...

Bluedog, Oswin,

As a nominal Libertarian I have much sympathy for those defecting to UKIP. I do not see it though, as a an electable option.
In my previous post I was not alluding to a wholesale Balkanisation of the CP; Merely a selective targeting of the most vapid and witless incumbents. Chloe Smith and Aidan Burley are examples of the low-hanging fruit ripe for replacement. It would only take ten or so changes to force Cameron out.
In my opinion good government should attract support through leadership, not via corrupt political advisors to whom demographics and spin are the routes to success.

25 March 2012 at 09:57  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr IanCad @ 09.57, sometimes tensions build within an electorate that are ignored by the political elite. The result is a political explosion. The UK may be at that release point right now.

The issues are the EU, immigration and the behaviour of Asian gangs within the UK. There is clearly increasing unease within the White British about further immigration and the relaxing of planning controls to build new cities to house the expanding immigrant population.

But Dave says he is not afraid of unpopularity. This is an incredibly stupid remark.

If Dave is saying that he is not listening, his behaviour will be reciprocated. Thus, whatever Dave says to the White British to mollify them is of absolutely no use. This electorate has stopped listening to him and is marching to a very different drum.

It is possible that we will see a landslide swing to UKIP in up-coming bye-elections that will stun the leadership of Lib/Lab/Con.

They will realise that after forty years of lies and deceit they have lost control.

25 March 2012 at 10:20  
Blogger IanCad said...

Mr. Bluedog,

I agree with all the political issues that you have cited.
Sadly, I see no sentiment for an uprising or Political Explosion." Apathy, ignorance and sloth are our national characteristics; even if these were overcome there is no Jack Cade or Cromwell anywhere in sight.
There's you, there's me, that makes two.
Not enough.
The phrases: "The Rage of Dreaming Sheep" and "Toothless Bulldog" seem appropriate.

25 March 2012 at 12:44  
Blogger Oswin said...

IandCad: well, there's me too, if you don't mind a bit more company; I know of a few dozen others too.

Let us remember what followed ''the rage of dreaming sheep'' and hope that it doesn't come to quite such a catastrophic awakening.

I think we are into the age of 'all bets are off' - anything might happen, at any moment, to send us careering out of control.

25 March 2012 at 15:38  
Blogger IanCad said...


Wonderful!! fifty stout fellows raised in one day. What a superb Recruiting Officer you are! We'll have Cameron trembling before Autumn at this rate.
I don't think "The Guns of August" will happen again. Just offer Dave a horse and a quango. He'll go quietly.

25 March 2012 at 19:42  
Blogger Jabba the Cat said...

Whenever I hear the whine of the Tory armchair defectors contemplating voting and joining EUKIP, I am reminded of Mrs Thatcher's remark about Labour MPs leaving to join the SDP, that they were cowards too scared to fight for the soul of their own party from within...

28 March 2012 at 19:23  
Blogger Oswin said...

Jabba the Cat: and what happened to the SDP do you suppose?

29 March 2012 at 14:55  
Blogger Barking Spider said...

@Derek T Northcote

For a start, the BNP is not far-Right - no matter how many times the BBC and the other Lefty MSM say they are! The BNP is, in fact, hard-Left - the BBC has even admitted this in a letter to a blogger at Biased-BBC!

They said something along the lines of "We at the BBC do realise that the BNP is hard-Left, it's just that they are more recognised as being far-Right."

WTF? How duplicitous, how pathetic and how extremely lying Lefty of them!

22 July 2012 at 23:37  

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