Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Queen shakes hands with Martin McGuinness

Historic. Symbolic. Significant. See below for comment.


Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Hope she rushes straight to the powder keg.. oops.. sorry 'room' and disinfects her hands even if she was wearing gloves.

27 June 2012 at 11:51  
Blogger Atlas Shrugged said...

Nice to see two individuals with so much in common getting along with each other.

27 June 2012 at 12:07  
Blogger Jim McLean said...

This cannot do anything but good. Let us embrace this opportunity and use it to reflect on all sorts of wider issues. But now isn't the time for cynicism or sarcastic comment.

27 June 2012 at 12:47  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

"But now isn't the time for cynicism or sarcastic comment."
I assume you are being sarcastic.

27 June 2012 at 13:16  
Blogger Corrigan1 said...

Don't be like that, Dreddy. If McGuinness can stomach it, I'm sure Windsor can too.

27 June 2012 at 13:29  
Blogger IanCad said...

What a noble lady.
God Save The Queen!

27 June 2012 at 15:57  
Blogger Oswin said...

IanCad: ditto.

27 June 2012 at 17:06  
Blogger Damian said...

So, the arch traitor shakes hands with a murderer and Iancad,Oswin and yourself Cranmer, think she is great and noble?

27 June 2012 at 17:35  
Blogger Oswin said...

Damian: the ''arch traitor'' ? My understanding of the word 'arch' suggests something of the 'instigator' ? Whereas, the truth is, our Queen has been manipulated, and deceived, alongside the rest of us.

Allowing for that, she still endeavours to do what she can - and yes, in an otherwise ignoble world, I call that 'noble'.

27 June 2012 at 18:00  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Who knows. One day McGuinness might become as popular in GB as that beloved ex-terrorist Mandela. But don’t put money on it. Mandela wasn’t a Catholic mick, was he...

27 June 2012 at 18:42  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...


To say nothing of those responsible for the King David Hotel bombing on 22 July 1946. 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured.

Perpetrated by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization Irgun and approved by
Haganah. The leader of Irgun at the time? One Menachem Begin a founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of the State of Israel.

Irgun announced that it would mourn for the Jewish victims, not the British ones.

27 June 2012 at 19:53  
Blogger non mouse said...

Thank you, Your Grace. And yes, Ian Cad -- and especially Oswin @ 1800.

Vivat Elizabeth R.

27 June 2012 at 20:03  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: see the 'history of the world' for a further few hundred thousand examples. Your point being what, exactly?

27 June 2012 at 20:07  
Blogger Sam Vega said...

Wasn't he some kind of double agent anyway? They are probably sharing a joke about his last expenses claim.

27 June 2012 at 20:40  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...


My 'point' being the past has to be put behind us. A response to Damian who accused Her Majesty of being a 'traitor' because in the name of peace she shook hands with a 'murderer'.

27 June 2012 at 20:54  
Blogger Atlas Shrugged said...

My 'point' being the past has to be put behind us.

WHY? And do you extend this type of thinking in all other aspects of your personal life?

I strongly suspect that you do not, for only a fool would.

Do you not learn by your experiences?

What have you personally learned from the 30 or more years of pointless murder and mayhem which very much characterized this perfectly contrived conflict?

Have you learned that terrorism does not work, other then to further the interests of our oligarchical establishment.

Have you not learned that The Vatican covertly controlled both the actions of The British secret services, therefore the UDR and associated groups, and The IRA?

If you, indeed the public as a whole have learned these lessons then supposed peace in NI, may have achieved something, and be more likely sustained. If not 'Irish' terrorism will simply be replaced almost instantaneously with some other type of terrorism, say for example Islamic Terrorism as a method of establishment control.

Oh I forgot, it already has.

28 June 2012 at 00:43  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: ta, we concur.

28 June 2012 at 00:58  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...


Sometimes ... just sometimes? ... no, actually, most times ... your ramblings are insufferable.

28 June 2012 at 00:58  
Blogger Oswin said...

Dodo: now be fair! Personally, I've often been interested in, and entertained by, what Atlas has to say; rather in contrast with (coughs) your own dreich offerings. I meam, just where do you get off, calling others ''insufferable'' ???

28 June 2012 at 01:32  
Blogger The Way of Dodo the Dude said...


Each to his own, I guess. One man's meat and all that. To be fair, Atlas does actually have asomwhat odd point of view that he shares - unlike some who just sit quietly on the sidelines making snide comments.

However, given the human tragedy involved to state: "The Vatican covertly controlled both the actions of The British secret services, therefore the UDR and associated groups, and The IRA?" is neither interesting nor entaining. It's offensive and insufferable.

You just sit there and be entained by this insult to the memory of the dead.

28 June 2012 at 02:10  
Blogger Oswin said...

aww sweetie, divint fash your old santicmonious self unduly; after all, you and ''snide'' are no strangers either.

28 June 2012 at 03:15  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Maybe, just maybe, McGuiness can see two things.
1] In the short term, more influence INSIDE the Brit political system
2] In the long term, it is better that "The Isles" stay together, in the face of the increasing bureaucratic threat of absolutism from the EU?

28 June 2012 at 08:37  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr Tingey @ 08.37, you are quite right. McGuiness has a certain easy charm that gets him places. Unlike that cold-blooded killer Gerry Adams.

28 June 2012 at 09:25  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Chaps, Inspector’s had a rather amusing thought....

The equivalent in a couple of hundred years from now could be the leader of the the English Defence League agreeing to a cease fire with the Caliph of Londonistan and shaking hands over it. Still, we won’t worry too much about that scenario. It will be our great grandchildren’s great grandchildren's problem, not ours. Well leave it to them, eh ?

Just in case the idea upsets you, remember what they used to say on the TV program Crimewatch. To paraphrase....

“You are more likely to be murdered in the security of your own home by someone you know, than to be wiped out by some religious warrior, probably”

Tatty bye, everybody, tatty bye !

28 June 2012 at 17:47  

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