Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Thousands complain about Comic Relief's 'Archbishop Rowan'

From Brother Ivo:

The BBC has received over two thousand complaints following its Red Nose Day sketch featuring Rowan Atkinson mocking the new Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby as an unbelieving trendy fool.

It was apparently written by Richard Curtis, which will disappoint His Grace who thinks well of him. Mr Curtis has a fair history, with his Vicar of Dibley, of presenting observational humour within an Anglican setting which nicely balanced our oddities with our virtues. We never object to that, for recognisable resemblance, as he ought to know only too well, is a key to successful satire. The better one likes, understands and respects a subject, the better the jokes. But on Red Nose Day, the humour ran flat with a trace of nastiness about it.

There have been many prior examples of good comedy arising out of an ecclesiastical setting for, truly, ‘all human life is there’.

There was the naivety of Derek Nimmo’s All Gas and Gaiters, the kindliness of Dermot Morgan’s Father Ted, and more recently Tom Hollander’s rather more gritty Rev, each of which has managed to engage, amuse, and tease whilst always respecting the real commitment and faith of those who give their lives to preaching the gospel, however imperfectly.

Rowan Atkinson’s latest offering was a parody of itself. It was dreadfully predictable and derivative, and that ought to be the basis for complaint in itself.

He served up the familiar old schtick of the trendy vicar circa 1963, and many of that vintage will have instantly recognised the famous sex education sketch of Alan Bennett, with an embarrassed school chaplain haplessly trying to befriend and enlighten the young school boy. The unlikely stooge was a juvenile actor by the name of John Sergeant. It was embarrassing to hear the age-old running gag of the vicar constantly making the same error, only this time with unfunny confusion of other fund-raisers instead of the boy’s name.

Rowan Atkinson reprised for the umpteenth time a tired routine and that might have worked had he and Curtis not tried to be ‘edgy’ with ‘Keep on praying – it doesn't work, but it's a good part of a getting-to-sleep routine if you've got insomnia’.

Now, the purpose of the evening was to keep folk in a good humour and move them towards generosity. So why throw out a gratuitous insult to the Archbishop and, indeed, to all people of faith?

There are many in this country who are less than convinced that foreign aid works.

There are, indeed, billions of dollars in Swiss bank accounts which might support that view, but do you not imagine that if a ‘comedian’ had thrown in the line ‘Keep on giving – we know it doesn’t work but it will make you feel better’ – that some research assistant would not have warned that it might just be a little counter-productive?

Nobody saw anything wrong with mocking the Archbishop and prayer because that is how most people at the BBC think everyone should think.

Already the BBC is trying to ignore how serious an insult that is: "Comic Relief night features seven hours of live television and is known for pushing at the boundaries of comedy alongside heartfelt appeal films,” said an anonymous BBC spokesperson.

Really? Watch the above video (it has been removed from BBC iPlayer) and ask yourself how much of a boundary has been pushed here. As far as Brother Ivo can see, there is nothing new, innovative or clever in it all.

Apparently actor Hugh Bonneville saw the point, quickly tweeting: ‘Had to go out after Rowan Atkinson’s “shagging” sketch taking the piss out of the CofE. Was there a funny one about Islam later on? #rnd.’

Of course, we all know that the BBC would not dream of ‘pushing boundaries’ with those who might push back. There is a name for such people: they are bullies, and that is how our national broadcaster has cast itself. It suits the narrative but there is an alternative that is more truthful and much more ‘cutting edge’ than anything these liberal ‘comedians’ could ever contrive.

When AIDS decimated Southern Africa, prayers were lifted to heaven, and they were answered in a massive response through those whom our trendy celebrities cannot bear to acknowledge.

The Roman Catholic Church responded with love, compassion, manpower and expertise. It is quite simply the largest deliverer of AIDS healthcare in Southern Africa. There are other creditable responses from the Protestant and Evangelical Churches to a degree that dwarfs the efforts of the Red Nose celebrity dilettantes. They trumpet their successes, yet, in truth, they do not hold a candle to the people of faith when it comes to the magnitude of AIDS relief.

The churches have been greatly assisted by another hate figure of the liberal Left.

PEPFAR is the US President’s Emergency Plan for Aids Relief and was established in 2001 as a unilateral effort by the United States to avoid the known bureaucratic, political grandstanding, waste, delays, and corruption associated with that grotesque parody of concerted action, the United Nations.

Its main driving force was the hated George W Bush, who saw that a massive response was needed and found time – whilst also fighting major wars – to commit to help the poor and the afflicted. Since then, billions of dollars have been given and millions of lives saved and transformed through a programme modeled upon the Ugandan ABC programme which had proved to be the most successful in reducing infections.

‘Abstinence, be faithful, use a condom’ (ABC) was adopted simply because it was proven to work.

Inevitably, the ‘Religious Right’ scorned it for its liberal distribution of condoms: Bono teased his friend George W for making the US Government the world’s largest purchaser of condoms. On the other side, the liberal Left objected to abstinence.

Ignoring both, the programme has got on with its work and even received the support of Pope Benedict XVI, who authorised the use of condoms for infection control in and outside of marriage.

How rarely do we hear these inconvenient truths from our celebrity cynics? It simply does not suit the liberal narrative to tell the whole story. Yet prayer really does work.

It was particularly sad to hear Rowan Atkinson presenting a lack of faith in an Archbishop whose life demonstrates anything but. We never see the likes of Mr Atkinson walking away from their cash cow, which is what Archbishop Justin did when he gave up a successful career in the oil industry to work for the Lord.

More impressively, we have recently learned of the Archbishop’s actions in Nigeria, following the example of Terry Waite before him, of stepping into the path of heavily-armed gang members who carried him blindfolded into the territory of local war-lords to conduct negotiations for the release of hostages. This is not the action of the faithless, prayer-less man implied by Rowan Atkinson.

When you contrast the truth of the man with the fatuous posturing of an overpaid clown, it does not reflect well on either Rowan Atkinson or his BBC apologists.

Prayer took Archbishop Justin to where he was needed, and prayer brought him safely home.

From the outset of his ministry, Pope Francis has called us to pray for him as he leads all people of faith along the paths of gospel Grace. We shall do so, and it is clearly the foundation of all that he does and all that he believes. There is a certain irony in being able to watch Pope Francis washing the feet of the AIDS victim, restoring dignity and giving hope, while the sniggering twerps of Comic Relief congratulate themselves on their annual smugfest.

Brother Ivo wonders how many homeless they invited into the Groucho Club that night.


Blogger Paul Vallely said...

"received the support of Pope Benedict XVI, who authorised the use of condoms for infection control in and outside of marriage." Did he? When? Where?

20 March 2013 at 09:22  
Blogger Brother Ivo said...

In his book " Light of the World" Benedict answered his questioner

When Seewald asks: "Are you saying, then, that the Catholic Church is actually not opposed in principle to the use of condoms?" The Holy Father responds: "She of course does not regard it as a real or moral solution, but, in this or that case, there can be nonetheless, in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way, of living sexuality."

He also addresses the use of condoms by male prostitutes on a similar " first step towards morality" argument.

You might care to read it .

Might you also, Brother Paul, ask yourself why you, an interested person, was not offered such nuanced information by our National Broadcaster on a regular basis?

20 March 2013 at 09:39  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

Hello, I hope you do not mind me commenting, I am not a regular but enjoy your blog. Aside from the obvious insult to Archbishop Welby, I was so upset at the abuse of the Children by the BBC who were watching at the time when this was aired at 7.45pm. This sketch, aired at the time it was, took advantage of the trust of parents and took advantage if the innocence of children by introducing them to the term 'shagging' which can in my opinion be termed as hate speech. I'm sure the Beeb thinks this is hilarious, perhaps edgy, controversy is always good isnt it? well they can live with their conscience. #protectinnocence. And before there is an outcry that its worse for children to see the true plight of povertyc than being introduced to hate speech ie 'shagging' which is a form as it opposes 'love' or 'making love' or even 'marriage' then I would say, why have you introduced a corrupting phrase to the nations' children at this time in a pre-recorded sketch? Did you intend to take advantage of my child? The answer is, yes, they did. Thankfully, mine were tucked up safely asleep.

20 March 2013 at 09:41  
Blogger Nick Britton said...

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20 March 2013 at 10:30  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

There is a way you can take direct action (a letter of complaint is almost seen as a'successful' comedy sketch).

Get rid of the weapon of mass distraction in your own living room. Block up the incoming sewer. Destroy the idol on it's altar. Deprive the BBC of the cash. Choose what you want to watch on demand, or by purchasing DVD's. Family life will improve. Your children's intelligence will improve.

Give the £180 you save directly to the charities you want to support and by-pass the nauseous circle-jerk these "telethons" are.

Or is that too radical for most Christian's?

20 March 2013 at 11:07  
Blogger Nick said...

A very good article and confirms my view that the BBC chooses to be ignorant of all matters religious, especially Christian. Sorry Mr Atkinson but you have gone down completely in my opinion. You have pandered to the cynical and divisive Liberal Left. it's unlikely i will ever be able to watch you shows again without thinking "what ignoramus you are".

As to Red Nose Day, I'm glad to say I missed the whole drivelous spectacle yet again. I'm happy to make donations to creditable charities, but I don't want to have to suffer that nauseating cr@p in the process.

Next year I will donate directly and bypass the whole RND chirade.

20 March 2013 at 11:08  
Blogger Brother Ivo said...

Dear Humble Queen

A Christian blog will always welcome the humble: sometimes they are especially welcome for their rarity value:-)

Mea Culpa!

20 March 2013 at 11:08  
Blogger David Hussell said...

I am happy to stand with those of faith and those of no faith, but who understand and practise decency, in condemning the cynical, divisive, sponging BBC for attacking that which is good, truthful, decent and upright about our national Church. It always exhibits a distinctly sneering anti-Christian, anti-Anglican stance plus a strongly biased anti- Catholic stance, which I deplore. It's overdue for this pompous , hypocritical taxpayer funded institution to be led back, to revert to its original Reithian concept. I stand with all Trinitarian denoninations including our brothers and sisters in the Catholic Church. Long may Justin be our Archbishop. Long may Pope Francis offer us all, Christian wisdom.

20 March 2013 at 11:10  
Blogger Angharad said...

Rowan Atkinson has certainly gone down in my estimation, his career has nose dived of late, now we understand why. Insulting the clergy for a cheap laugh is pathetic, and can hardly be considered comedic. Red Nose Day is dire and it fails to raise a smile.

Archbishop Justin Welby will be enthroned at Canterbury Cathedral. on Thursday, now that will be a happy occasion! Blessings and prayers for His Grace and YG from the little Catholic visitor to your fine blog.

20 March 2013 at 11:10  
Blogger Gary said...

One should hardly expect a leopard to change its spots. The BBC is run by cultural Marxists and is, therefore, in the business of attacking the church and the family at every opportunity. Richard Curtis writes for the BBC and also makes films that promote cultural Marxism (his Four Weddings and a Funeral, which featured Atkinson as yet another tiresome comedy vicar, celebrates adultery, homosexuality and promiscuity, for example).

20 March 2013 at 11:43  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Br Ivo

I am I to take it that the pope is inducing men to commit the sin of Onan?

20 March 2013 at 11:55  
Blogger Nick said...

I think the BBC needs to be broken up, so that those who watch television are not obliged to automatically fund these overpaid undertalented parasites who are on huge salaries, often just because of their popularity 20 years ago.

I watch the BBC so little these days (I was a BBC addict not many years ago) that it infuriates me I have to buy a licence to fund this cynical organisation

20 March 2013 at 12:01  
Blogger David B said...

I still don't quite understand what is meant to be meant by the term 'cultural Marxists' - sometimes abbreviated to just 'Marxists' by some ot those who comment on this blog, but it seems to me to bear far less relationship to Marxism than, for example, the term 'Marriage' bears to 'Same Sex Marriage' especially where the latter is legal, but also where it is being campaigned for. At least people understand what the term means, even if they don't think it is a valid use of the term 'marriage'.

Could someone kindly run the meaning of 'cultural Marxism' past me again? Maybe I might make more sense of it second time around.


20 March 2013 at 12:06  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

David, hello there, marriage can easily be translated as 'parenthood'. Where naturally, a man and woman become mother and father naturally to become parents (become naturally married), they then can chose to be legally married and have their permanent commitment (the presence of the child) recognised and rewarded by the law. Same sex marriage creates the legal institution, but does not allow for both father and father to become mother and father, although these words are being legally claimed in some instances. There is much misunderstanding about the nature of marriage. As is said truth comes out of the mouth of babes and for a very simple interpretation, my daughter recently said 'mummy, you and daddy need to get married again and have a baby.' She understood marriage perfectly, and has never had any explanation only pure understanding. There is no shame in misunderstanding marriage, it is simply a matter of education. I hope this is helpful and not offensive.

20 March 2013 at 12:26  
Blogger D. Singh said...

‘Cultural Marxism’

A personal opinion

There is ‘Scientific Marxism’: a belief in the ‘iron’ laws of dialectical materialism. The history of the world is one of class struggle. The working-class is the thesis + the ruling class is the anti-thesis resulting in class war and ending in the synthesis of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

In the 1980s the Marxists realised that capitalism hadn’t collapsed and hadn’t adapted and they therefore turned to the Italian Marxist Gramsci. He suggested that the classic model of the economic base on which the superstructure was built that contained the economic, legal and social relations was where the ‘war of manoeuvre’ is to be fought. In other words, the institutions (for example, media, marriage, ‘headship’) of this world needed to be captured for the Marxian cause. This school of thought is described as ‘Critical Marxism’ (as opposed to Scientific Marxism).

20 March 2013 at 12:32  
Blogger Berserker said...

I quote From Brother IVO:
'the kindliness of Dermot Morgan’s Father Ted'

Kindliness? You must be joking. This brilliant Channel 4 programme was abrasive, surreal, anti clerical, anti bourgeois Irish and anti bog Irish, crude and very funny. If I were on some Craggy Island on my own this is the only 'funny' programme that I could bear.

Red Nose day is cheapo TV for the Beeb. Do they care about the inflated salaries, the hatred that Asia and Africa have of this useless aid. You bet not. The lefty 'luvvies' reign supreme. I chucked out Mr Atkinson from my pantheon of fairly funny comics after the dreadful Olympic ceremonies - another 'lefty' bonanza.

20 March 2013 at 12:40  
Blogger Irene's Daughter said...

How tragic that Rowan Atkinson has abused the freedoms he fought so hard for and to whom we all owe a debt of thanks for the way he battled for the repeal section 5 of the public order act.

20 March 2013 at 13:22  
Blogger Anglican said...

Marxism? There are all kinds of people who call themelves Marxists, or are accused of being Marxists. It can mean many different things to different people. Alasdair MacIntyre, for instance (if I understand him correctly) was a Marxist in his younger days, and still believes that the young Marx's criticism of capitalism was and is accurate and useful. But he has gone on to analyse and criticise the destructive moral relativism that pervades modern Western societies in his 'After Virtue', and argues for Natural Law as described by Aristotle and Aquinas.

20 March 2013 at 15:19  
Blogger D. Singh said...

‘Wherefore it is not surprising that the Sacred Scriptures themselves also bear witness to the fact that the divine Majesty attends this unspeakable depravity with the utmost detestation, sometimes having punished it with death, as St. Augustine recalls: "For it is illicit and shameful for a man to lie with even his lawful wife in such a way as to prevent the conception of offspring. This is what Onan, son of Judah, used to do; and for that God slew him" (cf. Gen. 38: 8-10).’

Pope Pius XI, Encyclical on Christian Marriage, Casti Connubii (31 December 1930)

20 March 2013 at 15:26  
Blogger Nick said...

I think the word "Marxist" is often used (erroneously) to mean dictatorial and dogmatic. I think a better description of the BBC would be "Cultural Stalinists" as Stalin was intolerant, dictatorial, and a sham Chrsitian. By the latter I mean he trained as a priest but spent most of his career persecuting believers, though he was hypocritical enough to fly religious icons over Moscow when it was threatened with destruction by the Nazis.

20 March 2013 at 15:30  
Blogger Flossie said...

Good post, Brother Ivo.

I must admit that I no longer get angered by these inane pops at Christianity, having been desensitised by years of clergy being portrayed as bumbling buffoons, villains, monsters or child molesters in TV drama. Even when they can't make him the bad guy they will make him as unattractive as possible, as in the recent series of Father Brown.

It's hardly surprising that Christians are now treated with contempt by the wider population.

20 March 2013 at 16:13  
Blogger Flossie said...

I think Pope Benedict's reference to condom use was more an exercise in damage limitation in individual cases rather than blanket approval of the condom culture.

20 March 2013 at 16:17  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

Well said, Brother Ivo. In my opinion, Comic Relief is not a vehicle any Christian should choose for charitable giving.

The sketch was poor quality, agreed and one person's 'parody' always risks being another person's insult. As you say, the BBC is careful to whom it directs such 'humour'. What chance a funny little ditty portraying Mohammed's family life?

On a point of clarification, Benedict's words were theologically speculative, focusing on the process of conversion. He did not modify Catholic teaching about sexual relationships: heterosexual, within life long marriage, for union, self giving and open to the creation of new life.

20 March 2013 at 17:31  
Blogger Chantry Priest said...

A little off topic, but it is about prayer and, after all, it is his Grace's Anniversary.

OF your Charity, pray for the soul of the late Most Reverend, Right Honourable and Godly Father, Thomas, sometime Lord Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate of All England and Metropolitan thereunto. Upon whom may the Lord have mercy.

O GOD, Who didst cause Thy servant Thomas to enjoy the dignity of a Bishop in the Apostolic Priesthood: grant, we beseech Thee, that Thy merciful and loving kindness, for which we implore, may be profitable to his soul and that he may attain to the eternal fellowship of Him in Whom he hoped and believed even Jesus Christ our Lord. Through the same Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

I must confess that I am extremely intrigued as to yr Grace's exact spiritual status. I cannot see that you have yet attained to within sight of the Beatific Vision, nor can I imagine that yr Grace ended up with those who only have "wailing and gnashing of teeth." Obviously yr Grace is not some re-incarnated corporeal presence, but a spirit of the air. Therefore I can only conclude that yr Grace's undoubted reality in this naughty world represents a middle state that could only be as a result of the purgatorial sentence passed upon you.
Thus yr Grace, in a sense of wonderful irony, now proves the existence of that Godly and comforting doctrine that our holy Mother Church has always taught.

20 March 2013 at 17:46  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Ivo, one remembers the ‘new wave’ of comedian surfacing in the late 1970s. Cannot recall the catchy word they used to describe themselves at the time, but they all had one thing in common: Their derision of existing warm comedians. The whole movement was no doubt spawned by the emergence of punk rock, and as you might expect, the motivators made a name for themselves either as foul mouthed stand ups or self obsessed cynics. Among the worst was that un-funny bastard Billy Connelly, who set the future trend along with the ghastly Ben Elton and pitiful Adrian Edmonton. And today, we have the sinister Ricky Jervais. A man who apparently is a comedian of sorts, and even then, one had to read about him being described as such to have the slightest inkling. What a chiller he is - an appalling man.

The result, no more decency. No more smiles or grins. In fact, no more modern ‘comedy’ for this man, with notably few exceptions such as the likes of Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse. But then, they never pretended they were anything but adult humour. Adult in this context being that of sophistication, not filth thrown at you to shock, not laugh.

So Curtis may have started out as man of comedic tradition, but he’s been corrupted by the company he keeps. Everyone’s loss, what !

20 March 2013 at 17:52  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

David B to add to the excellent D Singh’s opinion. This man offers you the man in the street’s version…

Marxism, the tool of the oppressive ‘enlightened’ elite to dominate those that they generally believe need dominating (…Yes, the Labour party, that’s you crowd all over…). Rather like the army, where your superiors tell you when to eat, drink, sleep and sh_t, the cultural Marxist will tell you what is culture and what isn’t.

Good culture to them are TV telethons, all for a good cause, like providing abortions. Also secularism, the thoughts and lifestyle of ignorant and callow youth, drug abuse (…or ‘recreational’ drug use as the drug abusers in positions of influence call it…), multi cultural ethnic anything, homosexuality as a desirable life style to be taught that way in schools, and surrendering the country to the EU. Get the picture ?

Bad culture, or socially divisive error as they would call it, includes Christianity and Judaism, the monarchy, traditional marriage, the country’s great and proud heritage. Being white and or wealthy, supporting yourself and your family by working. Many more, and indeed more seem to be joining the list every year.

And yes, it took the end of the cold war to get this far, because up till then, cultural Marxists were seen as the traitors they are…

20 March 2013 at 17:54  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Aid to Africa – The Good Old Days

10 am Official Cable: The High Commissioner for the Hapless African Republic wishes to thank HM Government for the most generous bestowal of £ 1,000,000 to alleviate the poor and suffering in his country.

11 am Official Cable: The Department of Internal Affairs of the H.A.R. wishes to thank HM Government…etc…of £ 750,000 as forwarded to us by our High Commissioner to alleviate… etc.

12 am Official Cable: The Presidential Office of the H.A.R. wishes to thank HM Government…etc…of £ 500,000 as forwarded to us by our dept of Internal Affairs to alleviate… etc.

1 pm Official Cable: My dearest Queen, and esteemed white woman. I, Field Marshall Philips Mbongo VC, President of the HAR wishes to thank you personally for your governments most generous bestowal of £ 250,000 as handed to my greatness by the Presidential Office here. I am going to put it towards a presidential helicopter so that I may fly high above the plains and view my happy and thriving people to correct once and for all any rumour that they are poor and suffering…

20 March 2013 at 17:54  
Blogger Flossie said...

It should also be noted that Comic Relief funds several abortion providers as well as the Terrence Higgins Trust.

20 March 2013 at 18:16  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

We need to ask ourselves why is it funny?

If you ask the guy in the bar, then you will get the answer.

The Anglican Church was perceived a long time ago as not believing in anything, certainly not the Bible.

Or believes everything, take your choice

The comments above are mostly negative.
I found Rowan amusing, because that is what we are in the CofE.

The sooner we wake up the better. (Brother Ivo take note!)


20 March 2013 at 18:33  
Blogger Brother Ivo said...

Brother Peter,

Benedict's words were quoted and referenced simply because of a specific request for the basis of the reference in the piece. What he said has attracted puzzlement, explanation and interest but such is the risk which he properly ran when he pastorally addressed the horrors of Aids.

Brother Ivo was not mischief making but rather seeking to show how far Benedict went to offer help to those in need.

We may not successfully capture every nuance of his thought in the short space available here.

What cannot be doubted is the plain respect love and support for our Catholic brothers and sisters for their work for the victims of Aids with the support of their other brothers and sisters in Christ as they have worked together in a way that would surely gladden the heart of the new Pontiff as much as the one before.

20 March 2013 at 18:41  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

Brother Ivo
Friend, I had no sense at all that you were mischief making.

However, your observation, " ... the programme (i.e. ABC) has got on with its work and even received the support of Pope Benedict XVI, who authorised the use of condoms for infection control in and outside of marriage", was mistaken, albeit in good faith.

There was no authorisation for a programme promoting the use of condoms. It was a reflection that care for others, on the part of an individual, whilst their actions remained immoral, might indicate a moving of their soul towards God.

20 March 2013 at 19:38  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

I say chaps, the video has been blocked !

20 March 2013 at 20:07  
Blogger Nick said...

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20 March 2013 at 21:15  
Blogger Nick said...

"It should also be noted that Comic Relief funds several abortion providers as well as the Terrence Higgins Trust."

Good point Flossie. It shows that when you give money to these large events you have no idea where it will end up. I've decided to avoid Red Nose Day and comic Relief completely for this reason.

I wonder which dubious charities get lottery funding?

20 March 2013 at 21:19  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

THT site as changed somewhat. The previous time the Inspector visited, he almost drowned in the body lube adverts....

20 March 2013 at 21:31  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Let’s parody the THT begging site...

£ 25 will enable one diseased bender to get back to the gay club and wreak his revenge on those who infected him.

£ 50 will provide condoms for a gay club’s toilet that will not be used.

£ 100 will pay for one queer to go into a school and tell the children therein the joys of buggery.

20 March 2013 at 21:40  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Yup, Inspector General, they have pulled the plug on the video ! Slippery lot .

20 March 2013 at 21:41  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

His Grace has sourced another :o)

20 March 2013 at 21:51  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

It's not the content of the video alone which was problematic, but the hate filled content in relation to the time aired and viewed by our children. Not much point pulling it now. The damage is done. It seems they are abusers as well as cowards.

20 March 2013 at 21:53  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

You are undoubtedly a man of intelligence, wit and humour. Remember that 'sin against charity', I referred to which you did not comprehend?

Saint Paul puts it thus:

"If I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal ...

Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;

Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth with the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."

20 March 2013 at 22:09  
Blogger David B said...

I didn't see the Comic Relief sketch by Atkinson and Curtis, so I can't comment on the content, though I can understand the possibility that both are past their best.

Atkinson at his best was something rather special, though, as the link below will more than adequately demonstrate. Nothing to do with religion.


20 March 2013 at 22:45  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Peter Damian, you are so accurately right, the Inspector is a man of intelligence. Now, let’s forget about ‘sin against charity’ and concentrate on our difference. To wit, homosexuality. Having been around for many a long year and thus the time to consider the great questions of our time, you will be unsurprised that your man has this to say on the subject...

We have been placed on this earth and some of us, probably more than they think, have been given a load to carry. So, we can see that homosexuality is one such load. Now, here’s the awkward bit. The Inspector does not wish homosexuality to be portrayed as a positive lifestyle for those who do not carry that particular load. Let this man put it another way. What good is it that those in a wheelchair conspire to break the backs of the young so they too need a wheelchair.

So there you have it. Homosexuality is so personal an issue that it is requested of homosexuals that they do not advertise their lifestyle or indeed seek validation from society, as apparently they seem to desire.

And remember, YOU informed us you were gay. no one dragged it out of you.

Sweet dreams, that man...

20 March 2013 at 23:01  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

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20 March 2013 at 23:37  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

Thank you for stating your position so clearly. I see as well as having the burden of resentful anger you are also man who does not like to be challenged.

I will address a number of points in your reply. I too will be equally frank.

"We have been placed on this earth and some of us, probably more than they think, have been given a load to carry."

Indeed and often those with the lightest load are the soonest to trip and those with the heaviest the first to finish the race.

All our souls have been wounded, our minds and bodies all lack the perfection God desires for us. Yet, we are made the image of God and within each of us rests a soul capable of redemption.

"The Inspector does not wish homosexuality to be portrayed as a positive lifestyle for those who do not carry that particular load."

Showing contempt for and rejoicing in the sins of others, and being gleeful over the dire earthly consequences of those sins, is not the way of charity. It is a contradiction of all Jesus taught us. Reserve righteous anger for the right time and express it in the right manner.

"Homosexuality is so personal an issue that it is requested of homosexuals that they do not advertise their lifestyle or indeed seek validation from society, as apparently they seem to desire."

I agree, like all sin it is personal and the intimate details ought not to be broadcast. As a Christian, I believe our young should have a proper grounding in the religious views of acceptable sexual conduct, taught within a Christian moral and ethical framework.

The life style of one group of sinners, homosexuals included, should never be validated by the Church, Christian parents or Christian schools. Sadly, society thinks differently and the debate must be held openly, as it must on all aspects of human sexuality. This means as Christians we are called upon to conduct ourselves in a robust but charitable manner.

"And remember, YOU informed us you were gay. no one dragged it out of you."

And this is relevant because? Whether I am a homosexual or not is neither hear nor there. Do you think otherwise?

"Now, let’s forget about ‘sin against charity’ and concentrate on our difference."

If so, and I hope it will not come to this, please do not claim to represent Our Lord.

20 March 2013 at 23:55  
Blogger John Knox's lovechild said...

So you thought the chap who wrote the tea and biscuits Vicar of Dibley would be a nice tea and biscuits type when it came to Welby.

Ah, no.

Religion is there to be sneered at, mocked and traduced.Didn't you Anglicans know that is what the BBC does? Sorry, I'll rephrase that. The Christian religion is there to be sneered at, mocked and traduced.

We Catholics know that. We are the prime targets. A bit of solidarity from Anglicans in the past would not have gone amiss.

Anyway, yes. It is a mean minded little piece of garbage, that skit.

21 March 2013 at 01:13  
Blogger CSPB said...

Brother Ivo:

Your claim that Pope Benedict XVI authorised the use of condoms for infection control in and outside of marriage is not true.

In the source you quote he states that:

"There may be a basis in the case of some individuals, as perhaps when a male prostitute uses a condom, where this can be a first step in the direction of a moralisation, a first assumption of responsibility, on the way toward recovering an awareness that not everything is allowed and that one cannot do whatever one wants"..."But it is not really the way to deal with the evil of HIV infection. That can really lie only in a humanisation of sexuality."

Please see this analysis.

In reality, statistics show that promotion of condoms tends to increase HIV transmission rates by increasing promiscuity.

21 March 2013 at 02:53  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

There are times I'm very glad I am no longer able to receive the BBC's constant streams of propaganda. This is one of them. Well said, Brother Ivo. That sketch is way beyond the pale.

21 March 2013 at 06:34  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

'Annual smugfest' sounds about right. I didn't bother watching and gave earlier to Compassion a worthy Christian charity supporting poor children and to Medecins Sans Frontiere's Syria appeal. Not because of unfunny comedians but in obedience to Christ.

I am increasingly favouring disestablishment- of the smug bullying biased leftist BBC.

21 March 2013 at 07:09  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Rambling Steve Appleseed,

The BBC. Yes, I think that the BBC , as originally conceived was a worthwhile, almost at times, noble venture created for the common good. As long as that ethos was honoured it justified the levy of a compulsory fee. However whilst the compulsory fund raising has continued, now netting a bumper annual harvest, the purposes and ethos of the organization has changed away from the common good, as originally held, beyond all recognition. This is because it has been taken over by a self perpetuating, non-representative, narrow band of clone like left leaning, metropolitan types who eschew Britishness, Christianity and any sort of tradition, unless it is one that can be presented as better than our own. In short it no longer serves the whole nation and is, quite simply, not fit for purpose.
Moreover , despite being a gradualist I believe that it is incapable of repair, and yes , Steve, it should be "disestablished", and broken up. A small remnant should continue, following the original Lord Reith ideas, whilst the vast bulk of it should be broken up and sold off. It's very sad but it just doesn't serve the wider public any longer.

21 March 2013 at 08:08  
Blogger CSPB said...

Rambling Steve Appleseed
I'm sorry to inform you that Medecins Sans Frontiere's is also an abortion providing organisation.

Please see John Smeaton's article: Abortion without borders for more detail.

21 March 2013 at 15:04  
Blogger Jon said...

Your Grace - your video has gone blank again.

Everyone else - On the basis that a large number of zygotes are aborted naturally, are you all going to stop giving offerings at church on the basis that God is an abortion providing organisation (since these must be part of His plan), or are you going to start having a go at women everywhere as their bodies are facilitating abortions in 18% of zygotes, and a further 6% of zygotes are left to die by the callous wombs they find themselves?!

And Inspector, I think your sentences comparing of homosexuality to paraplegia suggest something other than intelligence at play. Acrid self- abnegation perhaps?

21 March 2013 at 17:29  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

A right to an abortion does not exist, since it denies the right of humans to be alive. As we are alive, we have human rights, to take those rights away deny that we have rights as humans. Would you deny a human their rights?

21 March 2013 at 18:18  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Peter Damian. This man has a clear view of what is right and what is wrong. He regrets his positive and strong attitude comes across as ‘resentful anger’, but acknowledges that in society today, a man must appear to be all things to all men, lest any of them be offended.

To accuse this man of ‘rejoicing in the sin of others’ is rather small minded of you. But alas, it is the cost to be borne by anyone who points out the sin in others. Same with ‘contempt’. Apparently in your world, the only way to avoid contempt in others is not to criticise, and let them carry on regardless.

The issue of homosexuality is a personal one. Glad we can at least agree on that. However, it ceases to be personal when it becomes a campaign. The campaign has been successful as it has almost achieved same sex marriage. That’s bad enough as it is, but next comes the likes of THT entering schools and presenting homosexuality in an extremely positive light and akin to marriage. One can barely wait for the politicians who voted in SSM to be bombarded with the angry views of anxious parents on that issue.

Incidentally, you carry yourself well in argument. You have the Inspector’s respect for that.

21 March 2013 at 19:12  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Jon, dear heart. One had to look up abnegation up. Still clinging to that desperate hope that the Inspector is, secretly, one of yours, so to speak. Dream on that boy. One day, you may well have a different hand holding your head down while bent over a table, but it will never be the Inspectors...

21 March 2013 at 19:20  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

My arguments count for nothing if they fail to persuade you to modify your approach.

I agree with your objections to homosexuality, if they are moral objections, I do; just not your approach to individuals. All Catholics should use reason. Afterall, it's one of the basic hallmarks of Catholicism.

21 March 2013 at 20:13  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Peter Damian “My arguments count for nothing if they fail to persuade you to modify your approach.”

Let’s just say your position is noted, old chum...

21 March 2013 at 21:52  
Blogger len said...

Why should Christians expect to be treated any better than Jesus was treated?.
There is a rising intolerance to all things Christian.Almost anything will be tolerated except Christian truth.
So the World attacks Christianity whether it is outright violence or the more suble attacks through the sarcasm of Rowan Atkinson and others.
So we should not be surprised when we( Christians) are attacked I have not got to the stage of' welcoming attacks' as Paul did but I am working on it!.
God definately uses those' in the World' who will attack Christianity to knock of the rough edges on Christians .So if we (Christians ) respond to persecution in' the right way'what the devil intends for harm God will turn around and use for good to further His purposes which is Christ being formed in Christians.
It is rather ironic that God can and will use satan to accomplish His purposes... if satan had known the true purposes of the Crucifixion he would have levelled every tree in Jerusalem.

There are definately many attempts to make Christians 'take offence'and this is a snare of the enemy which will capture many if they give it the opportunuty to do so.

21 March 2013 at 22:18  
Blogger len said...


21 March 2013 at 22:20  
Blogger Peter Damian said...

Noted, you reprobate.

Well said.

Sadly, 'christianity' itself is being redefined to accomodate the wishes of man.

There is a Christian way of conducting oneself - De Imitatione Christi. I must say, I particularly liked the expression "Christ being formed in Christians", echoing Paul's reproval of the Galatians.

21 March 2013 at 22:45  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Peter Damian. That’s the ticket, you scurrilous individual...

21 March 2013 at 23:04  
Blogger Jon said...

I'm glad I'm improving your vocabulary, if not your ability to reason, Inspector! Steady with letting your imagination go, though. You know you'll need to do 20 hail marys for that! (or Hello Inspectors, as they're called to those in the know! ;-) ).

Humble Queen missed my point (where did a cite a right?) I hope that all those casting reproving glances at medical organisations and charities for facilitating abortions at all, will treat God to a similar piece of their mind!

Surely the best stance against Comic Relief is that it isn't funny? It should just be called "relief". When asked "from what?" I suggest the answer be "Eastenders".

22 March 2013 at 11:21  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

Hello :) you didn't need to mention the right to an abortion, but your argument leant heavily upon the right to take away human rights from a human (an abortion). If you deny that humans should have rights (exist) then you deny that you exist and have rights as a human. Human rights exist because we exist, but even in the absence of human rights, the right to an abortion would not exist as it denies reality. Hope that hits the nail on the head. What Im saying, really, is that if you believe in yourself, you should not really be using abortion in any argument.

22 March 2013 at 12:50  
Blogger Jon said...

Hi Humble Queen - I think there are a number of holes in your argument, but it's a bit off topic, so I'm not going to go into it at length. Trying to be brief;

1. I'm not arguing in favour of abortion. I'm saying that it happens naturally. Since everything that happens is part of God's plan, surely God intended for those zygotes (or humans, in your parlance) to die.

2. The abortion debate hinges on where human life begins - something you've glossed over here (defining everything in the womb as human, if I read you right). For some people, it's at conception, for others, it's at intention (hence the prohibition on birth control). Abortionists must take a more nuanced approach, by definition.

3. Human rights don't exist because we exist. They are a comparatively new consideration.

4. I'm not arguing for or against abortion. I'm saying that they happen in nature and therefore that they must be part of God's plan in some way, as hard as that will be for some people to believe.

22 March 2013 at 14:21  
Blogger Humble Queen said...

Jon, if the life taken during an abortion was not a human life, we would not be having this discussion. Humans exist. We have rights and one if them is the right to life. If you want to know about God and death and sin, im sure many bloggers on here could help you, unfortunately I am no theologian.

22 March 2013 at 15:09  
Blogger John Thomas said...

I didn't know about this R. Atkinson sketch (avoiding, as I do, Red Nose night) - but am I surprised? Er, this was on the BBC, yes? In which case I'm not in the least surprised, how could anybody be?

23 March 2013 at 14:42  

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