Friday, May 03, 2013

UKIP - the One Nation Party

When your party is coming a very respectable second in South Shields and winning council seats in the Home Counties; and concerned to defend national sovereignty against the rising tide of globalist-federalist-corporatist governance; and simultaneously appealing to 'Mondeo Man', 'Worcester Woman', the worker in the pub, the housewife at home, and a vibrant mob of revolutionary youth passionate about real change, you are the true heir to 'One Nation' politics.

It doesn't actually matter that your members are philosophically disparate, or that few of your policies have been thought through. You don't need coherence when your opponents are all united in aloof indifference and muddled deflection. All you need is consistency and authenticity.

And a pint and a fag.

Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps said: "People sent a clear message. We hear you."

Do you, Grant?

So you'll be immediately restricting immigration, will you?

You'll be deporting Abu Qatada, will you?

And you'll be deregulating business and cutting spending and lowering taxes, will you? 

And you'll be ditching 'gay marriage?

And halting HS2?

And we'll get a referendum on our membership of the EU, will we?

And that doesn't mean some vacuous 'jam-tomorrow' promise conditional on Cameron winning a majority in 2015, because we all know that isn't going to happen, and we also know that it'll be the first pledge to be dropped as you thrash out yet another murky coalition agreement.

The Conservative Party’s historical focus on the economy, sound money, law and order, defence, patriotism, immigration, over-regulation, tax reduction, and their support for private enterprise, traditional marriage and the family, are now largely issues which are barely spoken of by the Tory elite. They are 'Thatcherite' values - harsh, masculine, rugged, selfish and abrasive. The modernisation process is concerned with the feminine, the delicate, the touchy-feely policies designed to appeal to the Guardianistas of Notting Hill. Conservative politics is no longer the pursuit of policy that works for the masses, but policy that feels right to the elite modernisers.

But Cameron is alienating his core vote without attracting a new constituency. He is killing the party and spectacularly misjudging the mood of the nation.

What 'clear message' have you heard, Grant?

Isn't it more important to listen and act?


Blogger Manfarang said...

"And a pint and a fag."
You better explain that to the American readers Your Grace.

3 May 2013 at 10:30  
Blogger Jonathan Steele said...

It means a glass of beer and a cigarette. An allusion to Nigel Farage's liking to both perhaps?

3 May 2013 at 10:35  
Blogger Manfarang said...

I remember a British man going into a room where many Americans were seated and saying-
"Can I bum a fag off someone"
The room just erupted with screams and belly laughter.

3 May 2013 at 10:43  
Blogger Manfarang said...

You are never alone with a Strand.
And another one-
As cool as a mountain stream.

Expect the British Broadcasting Company to restart cigarette advertising.

3 May 2013 at 10:49  
Blogger Irene's Daughter said...

Welcome back. You have been missed.

3 May 2013 at 10:52  
Blogger Nick Prideaux said...

Excellent post from His Grace. Hits the nail on the head.

3 May 2013 at 10:53  
Blogger bradypus said...

Welcome Home, Your Grace. Meditation has it's uses but not for too long!!!

3 May 2013 at 10:59  
Blogger Manfarang said...


3 May 2013 at 11:02  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Atlas my fruitcake eating days are long over.
That is something the English are still good at making and even exporting.

3 May 2013 at 11:05  
Blogger John Thomas said...

Doesn't it go: (British peer) "I remember Lord Smith Smythe Smith - he was my fag at Eton" (US visitor)"Well you British certainly are frank!" ?

3 May 2013 at 11:22  
Blogger Peter D said...

"The modernisation process is concerned with the feminine, the delicate, the touchy-feely policies designed to appeal to the Guardianistas of Notting Hill."

Spot on Archbishop and its the same process going on in the so called 'modernisation' of Christianity designed to appeal to the moral antinomians in our midst.

Welcone back.

3 May 2013 at 11:35  
Blogger Naomi King said...

UKIP Party Leader Nigel Farage and Deputy Leader Paul Nuttall will be in the media today at the following times:

12:00 - Nigel Farage on BBC 5 Live
12:00 - Paul Nuttall on Jeremy Vine Show (BBC Radio 2)
12:20 - 13:00 - Nigel Farage on BBC News
13:00 - Paul Nuttall on World At One (BBC Radio 4)
13:00 - 13:30 - Nigel Farage on Sky News
13:30 - Nigel Farage on ITV Lunchtime News
17:00 - Nigel Farage on BBC Radio 4
17:20 - Nigel Farage on BBC News


3 May 2013 at 11:36  
Blogger Naomi King said...

And you'll be ditching 'gay marriage?

Lets hope so ...

This is what Rowan Atkinson's brother says about it (and very well said indeed)

From: Rodney Atkinson

Dear Mr Opperman,

You and I will never agree on your extraordinary decision to vote for legislation which will redefine "marriage" "wife" and Husband".

However you will I hope at least vote for the new Clause 6 which makes clear that a belief in traditional marriage is protected by the Equality Act.

This Clause is necessary because we've already seen cases of people being punished for their beliefs about marriage.

Housing manager Adrian Smith was demoted and had his salary cut by 40% just because he said on his personal Facebook page that same-sex weddings in churches would be "an equality too far".

Police Chaplain, Rev Brian Ross, was thrown out of Strathclyde Police for voicing support for traditional marriage. The police cited equality laws.
A primary school teacher in London faced disciplinary action because she would not use a storybook about two male penguins raising a chick together.

People should not be treated like outcasts just because of their beliefs about marriage.
You may not be aware that for many decades Marxists, whose communist ideas have proved disastrous the world over, decided to abandon the working class as their engine for a communism and instead concentrate on undermining and destroying the social and moral pillars of western society using unwitting activists and MPs of the established parties. This kind of legislation is precisely what they have fought for.

Needless to say their ideas have always sought the destruction of a Conservative democratic and capitalist society - for which the Conservative Party used to stand.

Yours etc

Rodney Atkinson


3 May 2013 at 11:39  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Here are a few interesting thoughts to ponder on from Professor John Curtice from Strathclyde University. UKIP do better in places with relatively few graduates; it does worse in places with many graduates. UKIP do better in places with a relatively high level of people who claim a religious identity; it does worse in places where there are relatively few such people. And UKIP do better in places with more older people; it does less well in places where the population is relatively young.

3 May 2013 at 11:42  
Blogger Naomi King said...

And this is what the homosexuals say about the redefinition of marriage

"We Lie That The Institution of Marriage Isn't Going to Change..."

NYU Professor and SSM 'Expert Witness': "Why Should There Be Marriage At All?"

3 May 2013 at 11:43  
Blogger bluedog said...

Welcome back, Your Grace.

We are witnessing a political revolt that the governing party does not begin to understand. You quote Grant Shapps. He has also said the Conservatives have been "failing to get our own message across" to voters. Shapps is wrong, the voters absolutely understand Cameron's message and are voting UKIP as often as possible.

What is the political future for Cameron? Does he have one?

And what of Clegg and the LibDims? When Clegg fantasises about forming a coalition with Labour, in order to terrorise Dave, you can almost hear the Labour cries of 'Please not!'

With just 325 votes and a lost deposit at South Shields the LibDims are a suitable case for political euthansia.

They say that nothing succeeds like success. The terrifying possibility for the Conservatives is that they will rank third behind UKIP in the 2015 general election. In short, Nigel Farage will be in a position to dictate coalition terms to Cameron. Blimey!

3 May 2013 at 11:47  
Blogger Naomi King said...

The Tory Liers ... and GREAT results today, well done UKIP.

First, Grant Shapps, the Tory Chairman, has begun the post-mortem, warning that his party has been "failing to get our own message across" to voters.
Specifically, he says, "too few people actually understand that the government is fixing the economy and has cut the deficit by a third".

We know that the deficit will have doubled by 100% in 5 years by the end of this parliament from £700 billion when the Tories came into office in 2010 and will be 1,400 billion when they go out in 2015, the largest increase in debt EVER much larger the Blair and Brown combined. When is this fact going to come out publicly ?

The detrimental impact of Government debt policy on your wealth will be lasting and ongoing.

Warmest regards and GREAT results today, well done UKIP

3 May 2013 at 12:03  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

And halting HS2?

Spending billions on shaving a few minutes off travelling time is just plain daft; much better if we spent time and energy on finding a way to develop the integration of double deck rolling-stock. The entire system is so far behind the age and times, its no wonder passengers are herded and packed like cattle on an infrastructure designed over a hundred years ago.

Glad to have you back YG.

3 May 2013 at 12:13  
Blogger IanCad said...

Glad you're back YG, and I hope the rest has readied you to be up and at 'em.

That the Conservative Party just dosen't get it can be attested to by this current blurb from their website:

"As a Member, you all play a vital role in taking Britain
forward. Your support will help us fight off Labour's attacks and campaign to
change Britain for the better."

Labour is not the problem, UKIP is, as YG points out.

I have, many times, voiced my misgivings about this Populist movement. It will destroy the liberality of our nation. Preying on the transient emotions of a fickle and shallow electorate by promising to kick out all the foreigners and hanging the villians will always garner the support of the most shallow and ill-informed voters.
Now, where have we seen this before??!!

If the CP gets bogged down arguing the issues that you have stated YG it will lose. We must fight this by focusing on principles not policies. (at least not these ones.)
Time is slipping by.

3 May 2013 at 12:16  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

'A [half] pint and a fag'.

Best combination. Good to see another post up here!

"the economy, sound money, law and order, defence, patriotism, immigration, over-regulation, tax reduction, and their support for private enterprise, traditional marriage and the family"

That is exactly what the conservatives should be talking about.

3 May 2013 at 12:23  
Blogger non mouse said...

Wonderful to see you back, Your Grace!! And with due brilliance.

I love that you include traditional marriage and the family among 'Thatcherite' values - harsh, masculine, rugged, selfish and abrasive.

As the 23-year old said to me yesterday about pugilistics - they've been with us since the days of the cavemen, Theseus being one ....

3 May 2013 at 12:44  
Blogger Albert said...

Good to see you back Dr C and this is an excellent post. I would add that even if the Tories did do all the things you rightly say are entailed by listening, I still wouldn't vote for them, in fact, I might just regard them with contempt as well as loathing.

The problem with Dave is that he's a political prostitute. It's not just that I disagree with his policies, it's the fact that he will say or do anything if he thinks it will get him a taker. In short, I do not trust him as a man. He doesn't seem to believe in anything (except that he wants to be in power). That makes him the wrong man actually to be in power IMO.

There is no way back for the next General Election. Sensible Tories will be looking towards the election after that. What they will be realising is that they cannot get elected if they are not social conservative.

3 May 2013 at 12:48  
Blogger Sister Tiberia said...

Welcome back, YG, and an excellent post to return with :)

3 May 2013 at 12:53  
Blogger Manfarang said...

BBC figures suggest heading for national vote share of Lab 27%, Con 26%, Ukip 18+%, LDs 15% - (not official tho)

3 May 2013 at 12:54  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

The problem is not found in politics but in theology. Men who believe in nothing are acutely aware of their own individual vulnerability and powerlessness; aware of the yawning void over which they hang. To whom will they appeal in times of hardship and distress? Cries of "Lord save me!" would only echo off the halls of an unoccupied heaven. So they look around for a suitable surrogate deity and find nothing available but the state. In return for worship, they demand of the state one thing above all others - to be protected from downward economic mobility. That is the socialist impulse - to be protected from want. The state becomes the bread king. In return for bread, it says "But you must let me order your life as I see fit." A god is ever thus. The irony of course is that the state hasn't the power to deliver either bread or protection. It is a false god.

A conservative state is fundamentally the product of a religious people. You won't achieve the former without rebuilding the later.


3 May 2013 at 12:55  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Yesterday I had a choice of either a Tory candidate or a Labour one. In the absence of a UKIP candidate I opted for the none of the above vote.

Rassem Frassem!

3 May 2013 at 13:06  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

You better explain that to the American readers Your Grace.

I for one understood the questionable sentence. Even so. As a matter of principle, it would be better to use standard English rather than these British adaptations.


3 May 2013 at 13:07  
Blogger Jon said...

Your Grace, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a post on these results - for the first time in days, I visited the site fairly confident there'd be something new, and was rewarded with a vigorous exposition!

Obviously, I disagree with your (and Farage's) views on gay marriage, but accept that there wasn't a nationwide clamouring for it and so was confused (but pleasantly surprised) when it was accorded the priority it received. I think the resulting debate has been fairly healthy, and whilst it's an issue which clearly causes schism in the Tory party, most others seem to regard it as a non issue - an outlier of unfinished business in existing equality legislation.

On the other areas, whilst I am enjoying UKIPs surge as much as anyone, I think it's important to note a few things.

1. There's very little cost to voting UKIP now because there's so little power in councils. Local party machines matter to parties, voters don't care. Ditto European elections.

2. UKIP's position as a low tax party is primarily designed to draw in business people. This position is not consistent with an anti- immigration stance (at least in the south east). Indeed the number of internal contradictions in UKIPs prospectus (including some form or HS2) suggests that voters aren't so much selecting UKIP as much as punishing professional politicians. But surely UKIP will professionalise as it grows, so the very thing that makes it attractive could wither with success, which would be a shame.

3. As Albert said at 12.48, DC is seen as too changeable, but Farage is open about ditching his flat tax as it was see as too pro "the rich". He is principled on a very small number of things, and the rest is negotiable. How is this different from the other 3?

4. Had the Tories rammed home some form of PR system, the UKIP "threat" would be nothing of the sort now. I bet they're kicking themselves.

In any case, welcome back, Cranmer.

3 May 2013 at 13:30  
Blogger Jon said...

Carl - "standard English"? That's not very UKIP. Exceptionalism is the new normal now. You'd better learn to spell aluminium. ;-)

3 May 2013 at 13:31  
Blogger non mouse said...

Why, Mr. Jacobs.

You don't want British adaptations? Then you'd better get yourselves an even newer language. By that I mean, of course, you'll need to invent something workable from scratch. The mess of illiterate noises practiced by your multi-culti collation will make a fine start ... Lodeza lukk.

3 May 2013 at 13:39  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Better a wee dram Caerl.

3 May 2013 at 13:42  
Blogger Manfarang said...


3 May 2013 at 13:43  
Blogger Naomi King said...

A tough one for Cameron: Labour gain Witney Central from the Tories !

3 May 2013 at 14:04  
Blogger Naomi King said...

• Seats so far: Con -103, Lab +67, Ukip +46, LD -23, Other +13

3 May 2013 at 14:07  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Make that

Seats: Con -153, Lab +114, Ukip +60, LD -33, Other +10

The country has spoken Cameron OUT, OUT, OUT

3 May 2013 at 14:17  
Blogger Lucy Mullen said...

Muddled thinking , non mouse. There is nothing for womankind in the pushing for gay marriage by (mostly male) homosexuals. This should not surprise you. Get your handwriting analysis. For many of these people the lower zone (physical and sexual) is greatly dominant, so if you choose to believe that they highly value women in the other two zones that would still not amount to much valuing of women. Let us be analytical, realistic and honest here and not just vague charitable, wooly and hope/ful/less.

I saw a very honest post on a gay website. I listen to them too to understand what is going on from the horse's mouth. He said that what gay men and what straight women want are polar opposites. He is right. We want, on the whole, faithful deep, long, exclusive relationships, and to protect our children from early sexualisation, be free to bring up children and yet be economically valued, and not left poverty struck by doing so; all of these are challenged, diluted, and under threat. And we want children to be brought up by both parents, whereas in areas where gay marriage has increased so has womb leasing, with the concomitant horror of people offering up women as being like "quick bake ovens but they don't get to keep the cup cake". You may gush over Elton John's child, but the poor little guy will have the identity of both his mother and his father kept from him, but knowing that his "fathers" know at least one of those, and that he will offend them if he seeks the other.

Time to wake up, and here is one graduate, with many Conservative MPs and MEPs I am related to, so hardly a political novice, who will vote UKIP, just as I would have voted Ron Paul if i were American. They may not have dotted the i s and crossed all the t s but they are on the right track.

3 May 2013 at 14:27  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Welcome back, Your Grace! Lucidity unimpaired by your absence.

3 May 2013 at 15:30  
Blogger Naomi King said...

"A conservative state is fundamentally the product of a religious people. You won't achieve the former without rebuilding the later." Well said Carl @ 12.55 pm

The saturation of evil is becoming so complete that the only way we can cope is to redefine it. Examples of the decline are corruption, selfishness, apathy and decadence which are all around. The easiest way to make this case is simply to open the daily newspaper. Newspaper headlines readily make the case. Consider just a few from the past :
-Pedophiles launch own political party (May 30, 2006)

Pedophiles in the Netherlands are registering a political party to press for lowering the legal age of sexual relations from 16 to 12 and allow child porn and bestiality. The party says it eventually wants to get rid of the age limit on sexual relations.

-Bibles banned (May 12, 2006)

Bibles are being banned in hospitals and schools in order not to offend non-Christians.

-Gay school guide: Teachers’ manual rejects ‘mum’ and ‘dad’ (June 4, 2006)

Schools are being advised to dump the words “mother” and “father” by a new teachers’ manual that promotes the cause of same-sex parents.

Lord Macaulay (1800-1859), the English writer and historian, made an observation about the fate of democracies. He said that the average age of the world’s greatest democratic nations has been 200 years. Each has been through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith.
From faith to great courage.
From courage to liberty.
From liberty to abundance.
From abundance to complacency.
From complacency to selfishness.
From selfishness to apathy.
From apathy to dependency.
And from dependency back again into bondage.

(A letter from Lord Macaulay to an American friend, May 23, 1857)

What is needed more than ever is a rebuilding of the foundations. As the Psalmist said so long ago, “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3) The job will not be easy, but it must be done. We need to preserve what is good, and resist those anarchic voices, such as David Cameron, who would take it away from us. Thus we need to get back to basics. And we need to seek forgiveness for losing the plot Mr Cameron. As we were reminded so long ago: “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” (2 Chronicles 7:14). In the end, we must agree with Toynbee: “Sooner or later, man has always had to decide whether he worships his own power or the power of God.”

3 May 2013 at 15:51  
Blogger Jon said...

Naomi, I think existing news outlets can be relied upon to report the local election results. There's little to be gained in posting results which change by the hour as static posts on a thread such as this, is there?

3 May 2013 at 16:00  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Goodness! What a turn up for the books! Hitherto Barchester has been a bastion of Conservatism, but no longer. Choosing Bertie Stanhope as Tory candidate in yesterday's by-election was a mistake in my opinion, but a fellow once converted from Christianity to Judaisim and then back again with all the principle of a spinning top was destined to be a natural Cameroon, and the face of Central Office did smile upon him. Not any more I shouldn't wonder. Barchester has gone UKIP and Mr. Augustus Lookaloft the victorious member. The 'Ins' and the 'Outs' have been discomforted - now it is the turn of the 'Shake-it-all-abouts.' Interesting times...

3 May 2013 at 16:41  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Where's that Inspector's take on all this?
Labour have not done well in the south where they have to do if they have any chance of winning the next election.
Likewise for Ukip in the North.
I can't see Ukip doing much in Scotland.
Just one in the Mournes so I don't seec where the one nation comes from.

3 May 2013 at 16:51  
Blogger Albert said...

I see Dave is saying I will work hard to win back Ukip voters

The poor man really hasn't understood the message of yesterday.

3 May 2013 at 17:19  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

'What's Inspector's take on this?'...

From recollection of previous conversations, I think tonight is his 'curry' night... so doubtless he's celebrating over a lamb rogan josh with nann bread or something.... very British and multi cultural, if I do say so myself.

3 May 2013 at 17:30  
Blogger Surreptitious Evil said...

"As a matter of principle, it would be better to use standard English rather than these British adaptations."

Carl, indeed, we do use standard English. However, you use 'standard American'.

I could claim that pretense as the linguistic perversion of a mongrel nation with a dubious education system. But that would be rude.

3 May 2013 at 17:38  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Naomi: "17:00 - Nigel Farage on BBC Radio 4"

He was mauled ... as most politicians are there.

3 May 2013 at 18:04  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Good to see the ashes back after their spring clean.

Cameron and his progressives took the Conservatives to the Left when the country was heading Right. ‘Modernise or face oblivion’ was Francis Maude’s clarion call of a few months ago; he would have served his party better if he had kept his advice to himself and, instead, pursued his hobby of accumulating a taxpayer-funded property empire.

3 May 2013 at 18:07  
Blogger Albert said...

Well put Johnny,

Dave & Co's solution to the Tories' unelectability was to present themselves as socially and morally elitist. They not only dreamt up policies to upset their own supporters they then insulted the supporters as if they were stupid.

Why anyone thought that would work, is beyond me. But I think it shows that with the present Conservative Party you are dealing with a group of people who, despite their arrogance, and contempt for everyone else's intelligence, are actually not very politically bright.

3 May 2013 at 18:17  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

Surreptitious Evil said...

... a mongrel nation ...

You say that like it's a bad thing.


3 May 2013 at 18:24  
Blogger Albert said...


We won't take lessons from the colonies in how to speak English .

3 May 2013 at 18:29  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Welcome back, Your Grace! You worried a few of us with your longish absence, especially me, who would've had to crawl on me belly back to some of the Jewish blogs I'd kinda burned my proverbial bridges to with my ignorant attitude. We hooted it up in the usual ways, but tried not to trash your home and at least I tidied up my empty beer bottles and dumped the ashtray while you were gallivanting around. And no, that smell in the cellar isn't pot; a skunk got in through the laundry room window you left open.

Anyhoo, Your Grace, perhaps I'm reading too much into your first choice of topic upon your return, but have you perhaps reconsidered your adhesion to the Conservatives? Perhaps mulling about running with UKIP? Just asking.

3 May 2013 at 18:48  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

What's that Carl? "Standard English" ? You actually think there's such a thing? Oh yeah, to you it would be 'merican.

3 May 2013 at 18:51  
Blogger carl jacobs said...


Just saying the proper phrasing would be "And a beer and a smoke." Efficient. To the point. No extraneous vowels taking up unnecessary space. American ingenuity has made substantial improvements in the last 250 years.


3 May 2013 at 18:58  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Carl, five letters for "smoke" three for "fag." But is language strictly a utilitarian exercise whose main function is to save space? Space for what? More beer?

3 May 2013 at 19:28  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ Albert (18:17)—Even the not very politically bright leaders of the Tory party must surely understand that wheeling out Ken Clarke to accuse the very voters the Tories need to win back of being clowns was ill-advised. For the first time in his life, perhaps Cameron’s sense of entitlement has deserted him. No bad thing.

3 May 2013 at 19:34  
Blogger Owl said...

HG is back. The world is therefore OK.

One thing I can't quite puzzle out.
It would appear that there are still some people who vote for Con/Lib/Lab.
I must assume that there must be a reason for this strange behaviour which baffles me.

The only conclusion I can arrive at is that we have many masochists living in this land.

Glad I figured that one out, it has benn bothering me for some time now.

3 May 2013 at 19:34  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

I guess avi and carl have yet to appreciate the huge variety of regional dialects in the uk. House mate calls a bus a buzz for example. And if asked 'alwight, hiew yam uyow', you'd probably not get the lingo. Lol!

3 May 2013 at 19:38  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Damn good show UKIP. Absolutely topper result !

Don't believe you detractors actually understand what happened yesterday. UKIP has joined the fore. It’s now one of the big four, and there is absolutely nothing the Libdem/Con/Labour coalition can do about it.

We will go from strength to strength. One is even looking forward to the Eastern European Roma arriving here in eight short months time. We’ll just see how this wonderful diversification of our population goes down with our people after they’ve had everything they own which isn’t locked in the house or nailed down disappear during the night....

3 May 2013 at 19:49  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Hoe nice to hear your voice again Inspector.

3 May 2013 at 20:00  
Blogger Preacher said...

Dr Cranmer.
Good to see you back sir. First Class message, honest, incisive & straight to the point. Rather like Mr Farage himself. I thoroughly enjoyed the BBC debate at 5.30 today with the three representatives of Lib, Lab & Con, all on one side of the desk trying to attack Nigel Farage on the other side with political double talk.
It reminded me of three hyenas trying to frighten a Lion.
Will the 'professional' politicians learn to keep their promises & talk straight?. Not a chance, Parliament is a train wreck living in denial & hoping that the population hasn't heard the bang & will believe the same old promises in 2015.
Interesting that one of UKIP's newly elected councillors is a descendant of Guy Fawkes, even down to the surname. Prophetic? Maybe or has David Cameron seen the writing on the wall, "You have been weighed in the balance & found wanting. This very night your Kingdom has been given to .............." I'll let you finish it off.

Blessings & Welcome Back.

3 May 2013 at 20:12  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Good evening Mrs King.

Been rather delayed tonight as have been over on Pink News doing some pro bono missionary work (...unfortunate term of phrase...) with those blighters who are probably beyond saving, but need to put on the straight anyway.

pip pip !

3 May 2013 at 20:17  
Blogger Albert said...


Quite so about Mr Clark. I expect that made a few waverers get out and vote for Mr Farage. The Tories don't seem to get that it is their elitism which is the problem. It is evident to everyone that they are our of touch with their own party, so how are they supposed to know what it is like in the country?

Owl makes a good point. Who are these people who are still voting Tory? What is the matter with them?

3 May 2013 at 20:18  
Blogger Ian said...

Bang! Welcome back YG.

3 May 2013 at 20:44  
Blogger William said...

Acting Inspector General

I couldn't help but raise a smile with your pro bono missionary work comment. Were the natives receptive?

3 May 2013 at 22:41  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Well, William, there are certain questions one is loathe to ask a gay man, and right at the top is ‘are you receptive tonight’, if you catch this man's drift...

3 May 2013 at 22:52  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Delighted to hear of your missionary work Inspector. Maybe we should all seek a martyr's end.

Her Majesty the Queen is to give her Gracious Speech to open Parliament on Wednesday. Pray that it does not include a commitment to press on with the ‘gay marriage’ Bill. There is no email address for the Palace, so you will have to write to Her Majesty at Buckingham Palace, LONDON, SW1A 1AA and post your letter tomorrow, Saturday. But if you post it later, it will still send a prophetic message.

Churchill wrote: "If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. You ask, What is our policy? I will say; “It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us: to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy.” You ask, What is our aim? I can answer with one word: Victory—victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."

3 May 2013 at 22:56  
Blogger William said...


"[gay marriage is] an outlier of unfinished business in existing equality legislation."

And will remain so until children are finally considered to be a complete irrelevance. I pray not in my lifetime.

3 May 2013 at 22:59  
Blogger Matt A said...

Not sure I would want to be a Pink News martyr Naomi.
Great to have you back YG, sorely missed!

3 May 2013 at 23:16  
Blogger Peter D said...


Do be careful fraternising with the the weird and strange. Just look what happened to First Lieutenant John J. Dunbar!

3 May 2013 at 23:28  
Blogger Cressida de Nova said...

Ach! Ah nu that HG could never resist the lure of the Scottish ayre!Or has he? This post does not have that full bodied verve ( a shot straight between the eyes)that
we have all come to know and love so well. Palm trees and sun will do that to you. Welcome back s---t--!

4 May 2013 at 00:38  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Peter D

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

Death or organised buggery. Still the same sentiment...

4 May 2013 at 00:41  
Blogger Peter D said...

Good man, Inspector.

You may have read Mr Thatchell's account of his meeting with Justin Welby on Pink News. If accurate, I found it rather distressing that he was not bluntly informed by the Archbishop that homosexuality is an affront to God and dangerously corrisive to our collective good as a society. To oppose it is neither discrimination nor homophobia but common sense anda Christian duty. There's no room for compromise or a misplaced sense of compassion on this issue.

Gird your loins, as they say, if you continue to read the venomous, anti-Christian and bigoted comments on that site. Truly, it is the watering hole for the depraved and demented.

Keep Saint Patrick's Lorica in mind too.

4 May 2013 at 00:59  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Welcome back Your Grace. I am delighted that you have returned. Excellent !

I am also delighted with the growing share of the vote taken by my party. As a candidate here in Bury St Edmunds, although I came a respectable third with almost 20% of the vote in a division having no previous Ukip candidate, I was delighted to see the sharp increase in the number of Suffolk Ukip councillors, up from our previous figure of a solitary one, to nine, all in a deeply Conservative heartland county. Yippee ! Onward and upward ! There are a good number of committed Christians in Suffolk Ukip and our prayers are being answered.

4 May 2013 at 06:24  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Two errors there .....
Gay marriage is irrelevant - ignore it - it DOES NOT MATTER

Oh & HS2 should be fully completed by 2030 - all the way to Newcastle, not half-done.
We really need it.

Otherwise, agree wholeheartedly

4 May 2013 at 09:14  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Praise God for the true believers.

This homosexual infiltration is everywhere. My friend went, at her friend's request to the theatre here in Salisbury earlier in the week and the play was about a homosexual playwright who was (according to the imagination of the author) being persecuted by the local Church congregation. Blatant propaganda, one could call it hate speech even, propagated by the homosexuals. We haven't seen anything yet.

Interesting where Peter Tatchell is now in advocating pedophilia. Don't be deceived they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

There is not a word of censure or caution here from Tatchell, only encouragement for pedophiliac homosexual sex. No doubt to circumvent his own laws he could have chain of people engaging in sex where the age difference was always 3 years . I understand that Tatchell is busy trying to remove his articles from the web now.

Peter Thatchell, "Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy. While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful."

What a depraved comment but our LORD has given them (the homosexuals) over to a reprobate mind.

4 May 2013 at 09:26  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Keep up the good work Inspector !

4 May 2013 at 09:27  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Perhaps Cameron's only claim to fame will be that he was the last Conservative Prime Minister.
The Party's death knell was sounded in the 80's when only by a very expensive PR campaign and bribery of the media was Thatcher's failure and unprecedented unpopularity hidden. Major's administration revealed the Party was irretrievably split and it has just worsened since.

The succession of failed Conservative leaders (Howard, Hague, Smith, Cameron) have all pretended to 'unite' the Party but that was always a lie.
The Conservatives' failure to deal with UKIP by merging with them five years ago has meant there is nowhere for them to go now.

The Party will fail to get rid of Cameron and instead put their faith in dirty tricks PR; sad and unsightly death-throes.

UKIP is the natural Party for people who feel the Conservatives have failed them. For Cameron, his own quote will come back to haunt him "you are fruitcakes, nutters and closet racists" As a once rock solid Tory voter I, like millions of others, will never trust or vote for Cameron again.

Cameron is going to have to look over his shoulder all the time now. The Tories are a duplicitous bunch at the best of times. Now the daggers will be being sharpened but it is almost certainly too late.

4 May 2013 at 10:02  
Blogger Naomi King said...

The Ukip message chime with everybody and they have done the Conservatives huge harm, what is so extraordinary was that the Tory's couldn't see it coming.

For some unknown reason, David Cameron and his advisers seem to think that a lot of Conservative voters’ values are out-of-date and need to be modernised and thrown out (like marriage and family life). These were values that Tories have held true to for years, and now they are being ditched.

Tory's stood up for things in the past, they don’t stand up for anything any more.

4 May 2013 at 10:29  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Matthew Parris has got it right in The Times yesterday, I think.

4 May 2013 at 10:34  
Blogger Naomi King said...

And then came the totally unnecessary and divisive marriage debacle in which he profoundly alienated half of his grassroots activists. Which of course there is still time to repent of if he has truly been humbled by this drubbing he has received at the hands of the electorate this week. Let us pray that he does.

Of course all his problems have come upon him, like the wrath of God, since that fateful day that he announced at the Party Conference "I am for homosexuals [and I want you all to be like them] because I am a Conservative". What lunacy was the man thinking ? The man isn't fit to run a sweet shop let alone a country. And now we have the spectacle of our so called Prime Minister having to eat his own words over calling 23% of the electorate fruitcakes, nutters and racists and sanctioning his no 2 to call them clowns. Does these debacles give you confidence in the man ? I think not.

4 May 2013 at 10:44  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Hannah Kavangh @17:30

It appears you are unaware of Anglo-Indian culinary delights such as kedgeree and mulligatawny.

And as for English, there are no finer examples as can be found in the Hobson and Jobson.

4 May 2013 at 11:20  
Blogger Nick said...

I think the game is up for the Cameron/Clegg gay marriage. Time for them face up to it, get a divorce and let people with a less perverse view of Brirsh life take over

4 May 2013 at 11:34  
Blogger Old Blue Eyes said...

The Conservatives could win the next general election if they -
1. Elect a new leader within the next few months.

2. Reach an agreement with UKIP that (except for a few negotiated cases) in exchange for UKIP not fielding a candidate against any sitting Tory MPs they will leave the field open for UKIP in all other constituences.

3. Attempt to enact legislation before the election that guarantees an in/out referendum within 6 months of the new parliament. The Labour party would be committing electoral suicide if they attempted to prevent that legislation.

4 May 2013 at 12:21  
Blogger bluedog said...

Yes indeed, Naomi King, David Cameron has played an important part in UKIP's success.

Consider how UKIP in the General Election held in May 2010 scored just 3.1% of the vote. Exactly three years later, UKIP consistently score over 25% of the vote in bye-elections. In the unlikely event that UKIP continue to gain 7% of the vote per year, by 2015 they could expect to win 39%. In 2010 the Tories reached 36%. Thus, on current trends, the Conservatives will be scrapping with their LibDim partners to avoid getting the wooden spoon in 2015.

Perhaps Brasenose will take Dave back as a tutor in their PPE faculty (how not to do it division). Or there's the Tony Blair speaking circuit.

Must be tough knowing that before you're even 50 you've completely screwed up the best job you'll ever have.

4 May 2013 at 12:29  
Blogger Naomi King said...

This has been a seismic week in British politics. We will look back and say this was the election that really changed things. People have had their say and have decided that enough is enough.

No more will we surrender to the altar of 'ever closer union'.

No more will we surrender to the onslaught of mass immigration and the destruction of this countries very soul.

No more we will fall for the political elites' lies and deceit.

No more of the liberal consensus that has engulfed our three main political parties.

Most importantly this will be seen as the beginning of the end of the Conservative Party. This is the day the penny has finally dropped. The Tory party is now so hated by all aspects of the political spectrum, people of both ex blue and ex red parties having nothing but utter contempt for this useless, incompetent Etonian rabble that even the most delusional, irrational, dogmatic tribalist can't possibly believe the Conservative party will gain a majority in 2015.

And then what? 23 years and counting since the Tory's last won an election. An entire generation who had never witnessed a Conservative win. This is what yesterday has meant to British politics.

Ultimately it will lead to the necessary death of the Tory party which is now in irreversible terminal decline.

Viva UKIP and non-perverse (ie straight) politics !

4 May 2013 at 12:54  
Blogger Peter D said...

Naomi King

What a terrible article by Thatchell. The story of a 14 yer old youth in local authority care who wants the "freedom" to have "concensual sex" with men in their 30's. A child who has been with peodophiles for money to fund a drug habit and for shelter when he ran away from a children's home. A child who "realised" he was homosexual after an incident at age 8 years of age.

Everyone should read this and other articles on this website for an insight into the agenda of the homosexualists.

4 May 2013 at 13:12  
Blogger Manfarang said...

I wouldn't start writing 'The Strange Death of Tory England' just yet.
In Northern Ireland the Unionists split from the Conservatives but a pretty grim politics followed.

4 May 2013 at 13:22  
Blogger Naomi King said...

I don't know anything about the politics of Northern Ireland other than the Unionists had the conscience to vote against homosexual marriage and God will favour them for it. Hallaluya that Northern Ireland has stood strong against this wave of perversity.

Pray to God that we will do the same. If the Homosexual so called 'Marriage' Bill is not killed off by the Queen and Cameron now (it is completely in contravention of her Coronation Oath of course) it will be going before the Lords on the 20th May. You can imagine the mess that is going to make of the so called 'Conservative' party.

4 May 2013 at 14:25  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Mrs King. Marvellous news. One notes from PN that SSM will NOT form part of the Queens speech. The natives, bless them, are not aware fully of this significant development. They think it’s in the bag !

4 May 2013 at 14:59  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Harbinger of glad tidings ! Praise God if it is true.

4 May 2013 at 15:21  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Maybe the Queen has remembered see swore an oath before God and her people in 1953 to uphold the Holy Bible in ALL her law making and is refusing to do this ?

4 May 2013 at 15:29  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Inspector, while we are talking about the Holy Bible and legislation, here is CONCEPTION TO BIRTH - LIVE! which I am sure you will love.

So incredible...
New X-ray technique
This is an amazing color video on human life from conception to birthusing the newest 360 degree x-ray scanning technology that won its two inventors the Nobel Peace Prize.

4 May 2013 at 15:51  
Blogger non mouse said...

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4 May 2013 at 16:41  
Blogger non mouse said...

Lucy Mullen - I have no idea who you are, or what you think you're talking about. Do not, however, expect to embroil me in whatever it is you've launched @ 14:27.

For the general record: @12:44 I responded to, and quoted from, His Grace's post. I agree with his perception of the fake Tories' response to Mrs. Thatcher as if she were some primitive man. I compared the ignorance and meconnaissance of the neu Tory approach with that of present-day illiterates who inform me Theseus was a Caveman (Palaeolithic).

Had I time, I'd go on to suggest how neu politicos have more in common with Theseus than they do with Mrs. T. Suffice it to note that he married Hippolyta. Everyone knows who she was, even if their understandings derive from cursory readings of Midsummer Night's Dream and "The (K)night's Tale."

4 May 2013 at 16:52  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

Well said Naomi. I agree with all that (though I didn't realize that Rodney Atkinson was Rowan's brother).
I think the Conservatives are too stupid to change anything. One of them looked me in the eye yesterday at the count and said "It's important to do what's right, not what is popular." No point in having those silly ballot-boxes then, is it? It could have been a member of Stalin's Politburo speaking.
BTW @ Jonathan Steele, it's a liking FOR, not a liking to.

4 May 2013 at 17:01  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

PS No compassion is needed for "Lee" the promiscuous 8-14-year-old "gay" interviewed by Peter Tatchell as it's obvious that he is a figment of Tatchell's diseased imagination.
As for the "friends" he refers to, it is equally obvious that he means himself. Sounds as if he is admitting what made him the way he is.

4 May 2013 at 17:04  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

4 May 2013 at 17:05  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Inspector: "Mrs King. Marvellous news. One notes from PN that SSM will NOT form part of the Queens speech. The natives, bless them, are not aware fully of this significant development. They think it’s in the bag !"

It's got a carry-over motion, hasn't it?

4 May 2013 at 17:10  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Your Grace, did you enjoy your trip?
Thank you for your article. UKIP have certainly made a splash in the political scene. Or have they?
I can’t help feel that those who voted UKIP did not do so because of their policies, but because of the Conservative policies. It is still a protest vote rather than a vote for a party with valuable considered policies and capable of Government.
What if the Conservatives do introduce even a few of the policies you mention, will voters return to this discredited, immoral group of political deceivers.
Would you admire Cameron if he backed down on say SSM or would you see him as the scheming individual that he is. If he really believed in it he would stick with it. I pray that for whatever reason he dumps it, but that will make him no better.
I voted conservative for the last time at the last general election. I just need to find the ‘Old Conservative Party’ that I used to know and it is not yet UKIP because there is no underlying moral foundation to the party.

4 May 2013 at 17:18  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

"One notes from PN that SSM will NOT form part of the Queens speech"

Probably Cameron thinks that teargassing mums and children conducting a peaceful protest would not go down well here.

They can only get away with it in France!

Perhaps this really was the turning point.

We now see the true face of "tollerace".

In my experience, mums do not forgive this sort of thing.

Now they will want a boot.. I suspect that any boot will do.. that is on the other foot


4 May 2013 at 18:11  
Blogger len said...

A belated(my computer expired) welcome back your Grace.

4 May 2013 at 18:39  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Classic defensive strategy when a fellow is on the back foot, and his owners expect better of him. “Look, that SSM bill was a mistake, I realise that now. I’ll drop it, and beef up the EU ref promise, and we’ll be back on course, and our people will return from UKIP”

The Inspector has used that one himself of sorts in the past. Yes, he did spend a bit of time as a chancer in his youth...

4 May 2013 at 18:52  
Blogger Naomi King said...

My take is that this PR man (who is our present PM) believes if you don't mention it (homosexual marriage) no one will notice it going through (or not) in the Lords. A strategy about as likely to succeed with the electorate as not saying the word "UKIP" on telly or the radio, thinking the voters haven't noticed that UKIP exists. Did this man really go to Oxford ?

4 May 2013 at 20:21  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Hot News ... This is what our homosexual MP's get up to in their spare time (allegedly)

Great timing for an own goal by the homosexuals, poetic really and this is the lifestyle our Leader wants us to all to embrace.

Deputy Speaker Nigel Evans arrested on suspicion of rape. Daily Telegraph 7.15 pm today.

Nigel Evans, the Conservative MP, has been arrested on suspicion of raping and sexually assaulting two young men. Mr Evans, a Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons, is tonight being questioned over claims made by the two male alleged victims of rape.

They claim to have been raped and sexually assaulted between July 2009 and March 2013 at his constituency. Both were in their twenties at the times of the attacks, although their exact ages have not been disclosed. Mr Evans, 55, is openly gay, having disclosed his sexuality in 2010. At the time the MP for Ribble Valley said he was “tired of living a lie”.

4 May 2013 at 20:33  
Blogger IanCad said...

Nigel Faraage had better start laying off the sauce. The ever present glass of booze is no prop.

Why so many Conservatives flock to this Pie-eyed Piper is beyond me.
Disloyalty or naivety?
Rats or children?
Take your pick.

4 May 2013 at 21:39  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Christ, I'd hate to think of Naomi being called up for jury service.

4 May 2013 at 21:52  
Blogger Naomi King said...

What is a 55 year old man doing having sex with 20 year old boys anyway ?

4 May 2013 at 22:22  
Blogger Peter D said...

Naomi King

Well, Thatchell seems sypathetic to 30 year olds having (consensual)sex with 14 year olds and even younger children.

What do you expect? It does no "harm", you see, and is their "human right" and a question of "freedom".

4 May 2013 at 22:30  
Blogger Naomi King said...

DanJo - I'm a barrister so it won't happen.

4 May 2013 at 22:46  
Blogger Peter D said...

Naomi King

Don't let the Inspector know your profession!

4 May 2013 at 22:53  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

Yes. Mr Integrity's comments about a lack of "moral foundation" do sound rather hilarious in the light of this latest revelation, about Nigel Evans. A "gay" activist, he is tired of living a lie.

And these are the people who are redefining marriage?

4 May 2013 at 23:30  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Inspector just back from the “Mouse”...

Rumoured there that the deputy bugger of the House of Commons has been arrested for Speakery !


4 May 2013 at 23:51  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

I don't know Ian @ 21:52 he comes across as very coherent and anything but pie-eyed to me.

5 May 2013 at 00:35  
Blogger Manfarang said...

He is a bit like George W Bush except that Dubya drinks fruit juice.

5 May 2013 at 02:40  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Naomi King @14:25
Yes its all love thy neighbour there.

5 May 2013 at 02:50  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Alliance Leader David Ford MLA proposed an amendment in a debate in the Assembly calling for wider engagement across civic society on the provision of equal civil marriage with protections for faith groups

5 May 2013 at 04:22  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Manfarang

Interesting variety of cuisine there. I guess that's because India and China are practically continents in their own right. Now I am not sure if Inspector picked up on all of the variety of India curries way back in 1910, when he was doubtless patrolling the North West Frontier with his old regiment the Foot in Mouth Brigade...

5 May 2013 at 08:21  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Naomi,

Before you thank Jesus too much, I think it is worth pointing out UKIP won about 24% of the vote, in elections held in the shire counties of England mostly.

The effect at an election would surely be to split the conservative vote and let Labour come back to power, in the same way as the left wing vote used to be split with the liberal/social democratic party?

If the gay marriage bill is defeated now, then I think it is likely labour would reintroduce, but without any compromise re the C of E and push it through accordingly?

5 May 2013 at 08:25  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Hannah - Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

5 May 2013 at 08:40  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Maria 1797 - Thank you very much for the links to

Nigel Farage: "This EU is the New Communism. It is Power without Limits."


"Years ago, Mrs Thatcher recognised the truth behind the European Project. She saw that it was about taking away democracy from nation states and handing that power to largely unaccountable people.

Knowing as she did that the euro would not work she saw that this was a very dangerous design. Now we in UKIP take that same view and I tried over the years in this parliament to predict what the next moves would be as the euro disaster unfolded.

But not even me, in my most pessimistic of speeches would have imagined, Mr Rehn, that you and others in the Troika would resort to the level of common criminals and steal money from peoples' bank accounts in order to keep propped up this total failure that is the euro.

You even tried to take money away from the small investors in direct breach of the promise you made back in 2008.

Well the precedent has been set, and if we look at countries like Spain where business bankruptcies are up 45% year on year, we can see what your plan is to deal with the other bailouts as they come.

I must say, the message this sends out to investors is very loud and clear: Get your money out of the Eurozone before they come for you.
What you have done in Cyprus is you actually sounded the death knell of the euro. Nobody in the international community will have confidence in leaving their money there.

And how ironic to see the Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev compare your actions and say, ' I can only compare it to some of the decisions taken by the Soviet authorities.'

And then we have a new German proposal that says that actually what we ought to do is confiscate some of the value of peoples' properties in the southern Mediterranean eurozone states.

This European Union is the new communism. It is power without limits. It is creating a tide of human misery and the sooner it is swept away the better.

But what of this place, what of the parliament? This parliament has the ability to hold the Commission to account. I have put down a motion of censure debate on the table. I wonder whether any of you have the courage to recognise it and to support it. I very much doubt that.

And I am minded that there is a new Mrs Thatcher in Europe and he is called Frits Bolkenstein. And he has said of this parliament - remember he is a former Commissioner: 'It is not representative anymore for the Dutch or European citizen. The European Parliament is living out a federal fantasy which is no longer sustainable.'

How right he is."

Nigel Farage


5 May 2013 at 08:42  
Blogger William said...

Is it my imagination or is the whole SSM thing largely being promoted by gays, divorcees and unmarrieds? It's rather like asking alcoholics to determine how the pubs should be run.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if the married themselves were actually asked if they wanted the institution that they freely entered into, by signing legally binding documents and making promises in front of their families and friends, replaced with something else?

But then of course that misses the whole point of SSM which is to show how progressive the Conservative Party is.

5 May 2013 at 08:51  
Blogger Naomi King said...

This is what Pink News is saying about the Conservative Deputy Speaker this morning ...

Mr Evans, who previously voted against gay rights, while in the closet, is now a prominent and passionate supporter of LGBT issues in Parliament. He described supporting Section 28 as his “neanderthal phase.”

In an interview with PinkNews after he came out, Mr Evans said: “I’ve thrown away 35 years of my life.”

“I am clearly available!”

... and so he appears to be for young boys. Apparently Nigel Evan's has has held many senior posts in the Tory Party over the years, well that is comforting isn't it, great judgement (yet again) by all concerned ?

5 May 2013 at 08:54  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Homosexual 'marriage' aka "equality" is really domination by the homo's over the rest of us. In New York now where they have had this legislation forced on them, 14 year old girls are required to 'practice' lesbian kissing, by their teachers, in front of the whole class. Parents who complain are told to mind their own business !

This is from the National Organisation for Marriage website for the 22nd April

Anti-Bullying Presentation Forces Middle School Girls to Ask for Same-Sex Kiss

APRIL 22, 2013 AT 3:56 PM

BEFORE marriage is redefined, we're always told these things will never happen. Yet this seems to be what always happens.

A recent anti-bullying presentation at a middle school in New York that focused on homosexuality and gender identity has angered parents after their daughters have come home to tell them they were forced to ask another girl for a kiss.

During the workshop for girls, the 13 and 14-year-olds were told to ask one another for a kiss. They were also taught words such as “pansexual” and “genderqueer.”

Parent Mandy Coon told reporters that her daughter was very uncomfortable with the exercise. “She told me, ‘Mom, we all get teased and picked on enough; now I’m going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her,’” she lamented. “They also picked two girls to stand in front of the class and pretend they were lesbians on a date.”

Coon stated that she was especially irate over the matter because parents were given no warning about the presentations, nor an opportunity to opt out. She is also dismayed that college students were granted the right to come into the classroom and encourage her daughter to be sexually active. -Christian News Network

5 May 2013 at 09:11  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

It's a bit of a stretch to call men in their 20s (as they're being described in the media at the moment) as "young boys". They could have been 29 years old at the time of the alleged incidents for all we know. Are you really a barrister, Naomi?

5 May 2013 at 09:18  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Lest that be seen as some sort of defence of Evans, rape is bad enough as an allegation on its own without it being given some 'tabloid treatment' by a barrister. That said, he's been arrested and subsequently released on police bail while they investigate i.e. no charge. This may still come to nothing, though with two men making allegations and perhaps more if the police's broadcasting of his arrest pulls in more, it seems unlikely at the moment.

5 May 2013 at 09:28  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Hannah@ 08:21
There is in fact an Indo-Chinese food.A mix of the two.
Fancy a bit of Manchurian?
The Dragon Café specialises in it in Bangkok.

I expect the Inspector is busy following The Malaysian general election to see how Anwar will do.

5 May 2013 at 10:30  
Blogger Manfarang said...

There are moves to create a new liberal Unionist party in NI but I don't know what their views on equal marriage will be.

The Queen has to sign every bill that has been passed into law.

5 May 2013 at 10:43  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Evans has just been on TV, saying that the two alleged victims know each other well, and that one of them he counted as a friend with whom he had just socialised last week. Curious.

5 May 2013 at 11:08  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

Grant Shapps listens just like my 4 year old grandson, he listens and takes no notice of what he hears because it doesn't suit him. The solution is similar, with the 4 year old it is "You won't get an ice cream", with Shapps it is "You won't get my vote".

5 May 2013 at 12:53  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Naomi

A strange reply.

Have you not considered the possibility that UKIP are just as capable of political opportunism as any other party- I don't see them as a particularly 'Christian' party either, more right/libertarian. I think it was only recently that it came out against gay marriage for example. And it has also gone well now that the usual party of protest - the liberal democrats are in government.

5 May 2013 at 12:58  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Manafrang, 'Fancy a bit of Manchurian?'

I've only been to Manchester once... lol. As it happens I don't mind Chinese food, but am into my Sephardi cooking and drink. Of which, have you ever tried Arak?

5 May 2013 at 13:07  
Blogger Manfarang said...

I have only been to Manchester once too, I think the people are called Mancunians but as I am a vegetarian I don't think I would be taking a bite out of them.
There is a scene in the movie the Joy Luck Club where someone eats a slice of human flesh but it's made up.There is no such custom in China.
I have eaten a lot of falafel, hummus and salat yerakot.I like sabra,that's the fruit I have eaten not the young Israelis.
I have tried raki but that was a long time ago.I did find Israeli beer completely undrinkable but I liked the prune juice drink whatever it was called.

5 May 2013 at 14:32  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Forever grateful that you're not a Sabra-eater, Manfarang. One less worry to strike off the already overflowing threat board. As for the beer, agreed; astounding that a country which can make one of the best battle tanks, which leads in pharmacology and builds satellites, can't manage one decent brew.

5 May 2013 at 15:41  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Manfarang and Avi,

I think Israel makes some good wine though (:

5 May 2013 at 15:50  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Indeed so, Hannah, and I speak with some authority on the subject, as in fact my avatar here is based on a photo of yours truly having a, uh, power-nap, in the midst of an impromptu Israeli wines tasting session at a friend's.

5 May 2013 at 16:43  
Blogger carl jacobs said...


... can't manage one decent brew.

Ah. So this is why you prefer Coors Light.


5 May 2013 at 17:02  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Naomi thank you for transcribing Nigel's speech in your post of 5th May 13 08:42
It's exactly what is happening but of course those European bureaucrats don't give a damn what Mr Farage says.

I've been taking an interest in Angela Merkel's successor when she eventually goes, he's a young German born and brought up in Berlin to a Scottish father and German mother. Even though he says he has an aversion to communism and is a member of the centre right party CDU, (Christian Democrat Union) David McAllister is even more of a stickler about the progress of the European Union than Angela Merkel is. He doesn't seem to see the overall picture of the dangers of creating this supper state. God help us. Of course he's being praised to the hilt due to him being half Scot and therefore more user friendly.
As I see it the guilt of the last war has almost worn off as the younger generations take over and once again Germany is rearing its ugly dictatorial head.

5 May 2013 at 17:14  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...


Ah. So this is why you prefer Coors Light.

Right-on. An illustration of how dismal and desperate the brew situation in Israel is. Besides, Carl, my one-time appreciation for Coors Light happened at a synagogue function on a hot day, after building up a thirst with a mound of sushi and what seemed like a barrel of salty herring...with a judgment severely compromised by uncounted shots of single malt. I'm now sorry I ever confessed my lapse to you.

5 May 2013 at 17:45  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Avi,

I always wondered why you were looking at the floor! In fact you weren't looking at the floor, but probably looking at the wine glass you were holding, thinking "why is someone wanting to take my photo, when there is wine to be drunk"... LOL.

[Although apparently I have been told by a Christian friend that drinking alcohol is wrong as it is the devil's urine...].

'Salty herring' Uggg- I prefer good old Fish n' Chips, which is a British -Jewish invention. Fried fish was something Sephardi Jews brought to England from Spain and apparently Joseph Malin, a British Jew was the first to open up a combined Fish N' Chip shop in the East end of London in 1860.

5 May 2013 at 18:03  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Manfarang

I got confused with Mancunians and Manchurians! Lol!

5 May 2013 at 20:43  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Hannah, I wasn't looking at anything; I was fast asleep at the table.

5 May 2013 at 21:57  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Avi,

Yes, I can now see that looking at a bigger picture of your picture...

5 May 2013 at 22:21  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

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5 May 2013 at 22:48  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...


There is nothing wrong with Mr Barzel having a power nap between sampling of various wines...

In any case it looks like Israel is going after Assad. About bally time! Any mad man who gasses his own people needs a thorough thrashing ... a pity Britain won't send a Cruiser or battle group to stop the WMD of the Assad regime falling into the terrorist hands!

5 May 2013 at 22:49  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Julia Gasper wrote yesterday at 23:30,
'Mr Integrity's comments about a lack of "moral foundation" do sound rather hilarious'.
There is nothing funny about political parties having no moral foundation and there are no significant parties that do.
Morality has become a very subjective word, Without God involved, morality becomes the the expression of any one expounding their own moral view.

5 May 2013 at 22:55  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Greetings, Lord Lavendon. I hope not. In this fight between Alawis and Islamists, Israel won't pick sides, as it shouldn't. I'd say Israel is merely going after Iranian weapons en route to Hezbollah. Iran is cunningly trying to arm a scared Hezbollah, Lebanon which has no control over its south is sounding indignant over violations of a sovereignity it doesn't have and Assad is stupid enough to think he can rally the Arab world by dragging Israel into the fray, a decision which will only result in getting his butt whooped. We all know that whoever wins will orchestrate bloodbaths anyway... there not being any good guys in this one... and from Israel's and the West's perspective the longer they are at each others' throats the better. It's the same old Arab shtik you probably remember reading about when you were a wee lad.

6 May 2013 at 02:46  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Ah Avi,

Quite agree with your analysis.

Yet one seems to become more Machiavelian as one gets older.I don't like the Syrian regime, but neither do I like the Islamist opposition to it; it is not nice to read about these things on the wireless, but the outcome is no-win for Britain, Israeli and the other allies, whatever happens, lest of all intervention to overthrow a government. There is a rationale to crush to the terrorists or at least destroy the weapons.

A plan B would be for the French, who used to govern Syria, to do some legwork for a change. Strange old world we live in eh?

6 May 2013 at 15:47  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Senior backbenchers tell Cameron to drop same-sex marriage bill

"Sir Gerald Howarth, the former Defence Minister, said that his constituents were “fed up to the back teeth” with the Government. He challenged Mr Cameron to adopt a five-point plan that encompassed taking Britain out of the European Convention on Human Rights, doing more to cut immigration, triggering a prompt EU referendum, freezing the aid budget and scrapping the gay marriage Bill."

ConservativeHome poll: A third of Tory members want a pact with UKIP...

"A poll of Tory members for the ConservativeHome website found that 34 per cent would support a pact with Nigel Farage ahead of the election amid fears that many traditional Tories are deserting David Cameron...In the poll, which questioned 800 Conservative members online immediately after the council elections on Friday, 34 per cent of members said the party "should seek to form a pact with Ukip at the next general election." - Daily Telegraph

6 May 2013 at 19:17  
Blogger Naomi King said...

When the Righteous are in Authority...

Proverbs 29:2 states, “When the righteous are in authority the people rejoice; but when the wicked man rules, the people groan..." The question is…are Britain's people rejoicing or groaning today?

Considering the ‘current’ state of politics, and in light of the Scripture above, one must conclude that the current administration has contributed much pain to the British citizenry. And if Britain's are indeed groaning then one must conclude that those who are currently in authority do not fit within the definition of ‘righteousness’ before Almighty God.

As has been observed on previous posts on this blog the woes of our nation are far from political, but rather spiritual at the root. As a nation we have turned from God, rejected His commandments, His precepts, and His statutes. We have deviated from Christian standards and values, despised traditional marriage and family and no longer protect the rights of the unborn. All that is righteous and true seems to have taken a back seat in decisions made by our leaders today, resulting in a spiritual decline in our nation.

Some current political leaders have embraced homosexuality, same-sex marriage, abortion, political corruption, and anti-Christ policies. And so the people groan. The continued suffering present within our nation is a direct result of the multitude of ‘ungodly’ policies instituted by the administration against Christ. Moreover, many of those serving in Parliament have put ‘their’ own political ambitions above what is in the ‘best’ interest of the citizenry. And so the people groan.

6 May 2013 at 22:45  
Blogger Naomi King said...

To be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 May 2013 at 08:06  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Unlike in the Commons, the level of support in the Lords for gay marriage is unclear and some peers calculate it could be defeated there. Lord Cary told the Lords the process of passing the bill had been "wholly unedifying" and said debate and discussion had been "curtailed and foreshortened" while what he called the “so-called public consultation” was a foregone conclusion.

During the debate on the Queen's speech yesterday he said: “My Lords, had the Government listened more and not engaged in a desperate bid to paint all the opponents of this bill as elderly Christians, a strange breed of non-relevant dinosaurs, perhaps they would have started to address these issues and picked up the chorus of disapproval from those from our black and minority ethnic communities, who have been for no apparent reason, deliberately excluded from the legislative process.” He said that the leaders of some of the country’s biggest so-called black majority churches had requested a meeting with Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, but had been refused.

In a reference to the committee of MPs which scrutinised the bill, he said: “The Committee in the other place failed to invite a single black person, Muslim, Sikh or Hindu to give evidence in person.” Lord Cary also attacked the way that the debate in the Commons earlier this year had been subject to a so-called guillotine with time limits imposed on speeches and the debate itself. He added: “The Government has pursued this agenda without paying attention to many voices calling for caution, not just from its backbenchers but from thousands of its grassroots supporters.

“The local election results tell the story of a substantial section of the public who are extremely worried about the effect of a redefinition of marriage on family life and the well-being of children. “It is not surprising therefore that many feel that they have been frogmarched to this point in time.

10 May 2013 at 09:01  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Unlike in the Commons, the level of support in the Lords for gay marriage is unclear and some peers calculate it could be defeated there. Lord Cary told the Lords the process of passing the bill had been "wholly unedifying" and said debate and discussion had been "curtailed and foreshortened" while what he called the “so-called public consultation” was a foregone conclusion.

During the debate on the Queen's speech yesterday he said: “My Lords, had the Government listened more and not engaged in a desperate bid to paint all the opponents of this bill as elderly Christians, a strange breed of non-relevant dinosaurs, perhaps they would have started to address these issues and picked up the chorus of disapproval from those from our black and minority ethnic communities, who have been for no apparent reason, deliberately excluded from the legislative process.” He said that the leaders of some of the country’s biggest so-called black majority churches had requested a meeting with Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, but had been refused.

In a reference to the committee of MPs which scrutinised the bill, he said: “The Committee in the other place failed to invite a single black person, Muslim, Sikh or Hindu to give evidence in person.” Lord Cary also attacked the way that the debate in the Commons earlier this year had been subject to a so-called guillotine with time limits imposed on speeches and the debate itself. He added: “The Government has pursued this agenda without paying attention to many voices calling for caution, not just from its backbenchers but from thousands of its grassroots supporters.

“The local election results tell the story of a substantial section of the public who are extremely worried about the effect of a redefinition of marriage on family life and the well-being of children. “It is not surprising therefore that many feel that they have been frogmarched to this point in time.

10 May 2013 at 09:03  

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