Tuesday, July 02, 2013

Channel 4 to broadcast Islamic call to prayer throughout Ramadan

Throughout the month of Ramadan, Channel 4 is turning itself into a muezzin and a nationwide minaret to broadcast the adhān - the Islamic call to prayer - every morning for 30 days.  C4’s head of factual programming Ralph Lee said the channel would act as a ‘nationwide tannoy system’ for Britain’s Muslims.

This follows their decision to give a platform to Anjem Choudary to air his obnoxious views, and represents an attempt, Ralph Lee says, to move away from associating Islam with extremism and terrorism. C4 say they simply want to cater for the 2.8 million ordinary, moderate British Muslims who observe Ramadan.

They could, of course, broadcast a service or two from within a mosque, as they might do from a church for Christians at Easter or Christmas. They could make a documentary or two about the origins of Ramadan, as they might do about Lent. They could even 'cater' for millions of Muslims by mocking their religion and lampooning Mohammed, as they habitually seem to do for Christians and the character of Jesus. Do they think the Alternative Christmas Message 'caters' for millions of Christians, or purposely courts controversy by insulting them?

Only the morning call to prayer will be broadcast on television, but all the daily prayers will be played on the C4 website. They will be delivered by musician Hassen Rasool and accompanied by a three-minute video showing him outside various London landmarks, including St Paul’s Cathedral.

They could have chose Regent's Park Mosque; the Islamic Cultural Centre; Finsbury Park Mosque, etc, etc. But no, one of the London landmarks to be juxtaposed with the Islamic call to prayer will be St Paul's Cathedral.

Channel 4 will also include the sunrise and sunset times during its weather reports.

Let us be clear about what is going on here: this is Channel 4 simply facilitating Islamic worship. By sounding the adhān, they are fulfilling the function of a muezzin in a mosque. Ralph Lee says: "The calls to prayer prompt Muslims to carry out quiet moments of worship, but hopefully they’ll also make other viewers sit up and notice that this event is taking place."

The objective is clear: it is proselytism.

Amidst all the media coverage and widespread comment this story is attracting, there has been absolutely no religious analysis at all. And it is only in the religio-political realm that the significance of this decision can be understood.

Firstly, let us dismiss the notion that the call to prayer is somehow the the Islamic equivalent of bell-ringing. Church spires with pealing bells are a British cultural manifestation with a thousand years of history, and the sound is theologically neutral. Indeed, it is merely audible symbolism. But the adhān belongs to quite a different culture: it is an unequivocally insensitive theological declaration with profoundly political implications, and is invasively ‘in-your-face’ and ‘down-your-throat’ (or whatever the audial equivalent be). It includes the words:

Allah u Akbar - Allah is the Greatest

Ash-hadu allā ilāha illallāh - I bear witness that there is no god except Allah

Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasūlullāh - I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah

These phrases are repeated three or four times, and the whole call goes on with rather more, but you get the drift.

The fact that it will be declared into national airspace in Arabic rather conceals the theological significance and mitigates the offence against asserted secularity. If it were in English, it would doubtless be considered an affront to many, and the secularists would be taking to the airwaves to denounce the intrusion.

Broadcasting the adhān is a profoundly religio-political act; it is akin to broadcasting the Lord’s Prayer three or five times a day, or proclaiming the inviolable truth of the Trinity and the Lordship of Christ, or intoning John 1:1-5. And yet even these do not have the temporal political significance of ‘Jesus is Lord and the Pope is his Vice-Regent on earth’. Or, if you prefer, ‘Jesus is Lord and Her Majesty the Queen is the only Supreme Governor on earth of the Church in England and the English Crown shall enjoy all honours, dignities, preeminences, jurisdictions, privileges, authorities, immunities, profits, and commodities to the said dignity.’

That wouldn't go down very well in some corners of the Kingdom.

The public declaration of either of these statements – on the status of the Pope or the Queen - would not be politically acceptable, even though both may be deemed to affirm religio-political truths. While the first would have clear constitutional implications, the second would imperil the Queen’s peace and would not therefore be permissible. The adhān is about theological dominance and political supremacy, originating, as it does, from a culture in which one religious system prevails, and none has the right to object.

But Channel 4 must 'cater' for minority voices.

Have they ever sounded the shofar? Should it be heard throughout the land? Should the Shema be declared to the nation? If not, why not?


Blogger john in cheshire said...

C4 have overstepped the line on this matter.

2 July 2013 at 09:12  
Blogger Liam Pennington said...

C4 was set up for this very purpose - to poke a stick at consensus and occasionally ruffle feathers. This decision fits their remit, indeed it fits the very words in the legislation which created the network all those years ago.

I understand the significance. But I understand too that all and any network could broadcast the Lords Prayer three times a day but none choose to do so. Maybe this decision by C4 to broadcast a call to prayer will be a call to arms by Christians within broadcasting.

2 July 2013 at 09:15  
Blogger Andy Baxter said...

Channel 4 claim that they are not publicly funded:-

How is C4 Funded?

2 July 2013 at 09:22  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

The Buddhist experience: Islam will DOMINATE!

2 July 2013 at 09:34  
Blogger Albert said...

I don't object to this in principle. It's better than all the anti-religious and pornographic material the media produces. It's the inconsistency with other faiths that I object to.

I think the idea of this kind of broadcasting (officially at least) was that people knew about Christianity, but that people did not know about the religions of immigrants. Now of course, people do not know about Christianity either, so to be consistent, we should have more educational programmes about Christianity, but we don't.

And so the real reason for pluralistic broadcasting has become clear: it is about marginalising Christianity or indeed any other kind of traditional English (or British) culture. In the end, we have handed cultural control of the nation to cultural misfits.

2 July 2013 at 09:50  
Blogger bradypus said...

Just wondering exactly how many Muslims will leave their TV's on all night set to channel 4 so that they can be woken by the call to prayer?( or indeed how many other members of the Great British Public will have their TV's, set on C4, on then?)

Surely this is just a cheap publicity stunt by C4

2 July 2013 at 10:25  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Many in broadcasting are atheists or at least secularists so they see exotic faiths as a useful stick with which to beat Christianity and everything traditional. Their suspicion if not dislike (or even hatred?) of indigenous traditions is such that they are blind to where their pretend "tolerance" could well lead, the loss of true Christian derived liberalism and growing state control. But in future who will control the state ?

2 July 2013 at 10:30  
Blogger Jay Bee said...

C4 are either PC idiots or part of a conspiracy of gradual Islamisation.
Coming so soon after the murder of Lee Rigby their actions are insulting and inflammatory.

Let them pander to 2.8 million and let the rest of us make sure their overall viewing figures plummet. Boycott C4 now!

2 July 2013 at 10:33  
Blogger Gary said...

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2 July 2013 at 10:40  
Blogger Gary said...

TV is an idol for some, and a god for others. It mediates reality for all, and that, sadly, includes every Christian I have ever met.

2 July 2013 at 10:41  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Yawn! 3 am? Yawn! ZZZZzzzz.

2 July 2013 at 11:25  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Your Grace,
One thing about broadcasting is I thought that it had to have balance.
In this so called multicultural society that we have mistakenly allowed to happen, they should have a slice of the pie. Should this however be proportional?
If so then great chunks of broadcast time should be dedicated to people crying out to the great NON God in the sky.

2 July 2013 at 11:46  
Blogger Simi said...

Channel 4 is well known as a station that loves to provoke people. But why would you poke an already angry bear with a sharp stick? don't you know you're going to get mauled? C4 might be chuckling at all the lovely publicity its getting; but I think this stunt (and it's nothing more than that) will come back to bite them, just like that bear. The British people at the moment are very ANTI islam - not only because of Drummer Rigby's needless slaughter; but also because of the christians being beheaded in places like Syria, on tape no less, just for being christians; as well as the vicious attacks on young girls for wanting nothing more than an education or even just for dancing in the rain. To then have a tv channel openly encourage and praise the very religion that's carrying out these attacks (both at home and abroad) isn't go to sit well with the rest of the British people, regardless of their own race, religion or colour.

2 July 2013 at 12:01  
Blogger bluedog said...

'But no, one of the London landmarks to be juxtaposed with the Islamic call to prayer will be St Paul's Cathedral.'

They need to measure it to see where to put the minarets, Your Grace. Nothing to worry about.

2 July 2013 at 12:28  
Blogger LEN said...

The spiritual implications of praying to ones God are enormous(whoever or whatever that 'god' might be.)

There are numerous spiritual forces seeking entrance into this World and they need some sort of authority to gain entrance.

Prayer whether this be spiritualist, chanting, mantras, even tribal drumming etc are 'doorways' for spiritual forces to enter.'Native Americans' use of dance and chanting is used to invoke 'spirits'. This practice is also amongst the 'eastern religions'.

All this[invoking of spirits] is a very dangerous practice because I can only liken these practices to flinging open the door of your house and welcoming all in(regardless)

So prayer is a matter that should be taken seriously and addressed to those who we have some knowledge(the Christian God for example) and not to some vague 'spirits'. There is an almost obsessional interest in the occult within the Media and this is being presented to our young as harmless fun which it quite clearly isn`t.

Be very careful who you pray to and what you pray for because as the Bible says we should test the spirits to see if they are really from God.

Over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population are Muslims who are praying several times daily for their' Allah' to take control of this Planet the implications (which I have listed above) are enormous.

2 July 2013 at 12:35  
Blogger Nick said...

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2 July 2013 at 12:50  
Blogger Nick said...

C4 are very naieve to play "equality" games with a religion like Islam. Islam generally stands for the opposite of the kind of PC ideology shown by C4 in its broadcasts. As we have seen with the BBC, the media tends to limit its understanding of religion to what it gleans from Wikipedia. It sees religion as "culture", which is to regard it as a rituallistic practice and therefore underestimate its power. No doubt the Islmic community will appreciate being indulged in this way. The rest of us know it is pure cynicism.

2 July 2013 at 12:58  
Blogger Preacher said...

I wonder when scripture will be read over the media in Islamic countries, maybe at Easter?.
Channel.4 are foolish to even think about this. Practising Muslims will not need Channel 4 as an alarm call so it's obviously an ill conceived stunt.
However I believe that the lethargic attitude to our Christian faith in the West, coupled with the rise of post modern philosophy & false manifestations attributed to the 'Holy Spirit' but lacking either the fruit or power of the third member of the trinity, has produced a spiritual vacuum that is responsible for the current situation.
I know that there are many out there who have "Not bowed the knee to Baal". But in many churches, weak & apostate shepherds have left the flock of God at the mercy of Wolves.
It's time to clear out the rubbish, repent, pray for a Holy Spirit out pouring of revival, Blow the dust of the Bible, read it believe it & put into practice what it teaches.


2 July 2013 at 13:14  
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2 July 2013 at 13:49  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

@ Mr Integrity
"In this so called multicultural society that we have mistakenly allowed to happen..."

As a result the Koran's teachings regarding infidels, whenever Muslims enter a non-Muslim country they automatically regard it as a hostile environment (Dar al Harb), and ripe for predation (Razzia) as we have seen with the Islamic pedophile networks which are endemic within the Muslim community.

The well-meaning and gullible kuffars meanwhile will try to apply 'multiculturalism' to their new immigrants, just as they would with any normal religion. However, sooner or later they'll discover that the Muslims are only interested in monoculturalism; and that's when 'host rejection' sets in, as it has in Burma, and is doing increasingly in Europe.

2 July 2013 at 14:23  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

I wonder if I could right my coffeemaker to kick in at the sounds of the adhān.

2 July 2013 at 14:43  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Your Grace quotes Channel 4’s Ralph Lee as saying: ‘The calls to prayer prompt Muslims to carry out quiet moments of worship’. Mr Lee may think the worship that follows the prayer call is similar to the Lord’s Prayer but it includes a recitation of the first chapter of the Qur’an with its assertion of the unique wickedness of Jews (‘those who have incurred Your wrath’) and its dismissal of Christians as ‘those who have gone astray.’

Channel 4 may be happy to be associated with such sentiments and happy to facilitate the worship of Allah but, in the interests of impartiality, it should explain to its viewers the beliefs underlying Muslim worship.

2 July 2013 at 15:08  
Blogger Fantana said...

Apparently Al Jazeera are going to broadcast 'Bells on Sunday'.

2 July 2013 at 15:31  
Blogger Nick said...

It would be good to have a Christian freeview channel in this country, something that would be free from secular editorial control. I would even put up with adverts if it needed that sort of funding.

2 July 2013 at 15:38  
Blogger Richard Watterson said...

Channel 4 isn't publicly funded.

2 July 2013 at 16:04  
Blogger Nick said...

Its Welsh version S4C, IS going to receive licence fee cash....


2 July 2013 at 16:45  
Blogger The PrangWizard of England said...

A clear provocation, designed to anger and cause great distress. Excused by C4 as they will say they have always been 'cutting edge'
But this goes beyond that, only a few weeks since the barbaric murder in Woolwich, done in the name of Islam.
This does deserve to be fought and opposed by anyone who has any feelings of right versus wrong.
The decision to do this is I think the product of a sick and subversive mind, one without conscience.

2 July 2013 at 16:52  
Blogger non mouse said...

A "Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness" calls then,* Your Grace.

If the British majority population don't fund C4, who does?

* cf. Fitzgerald, E. ed. The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam. Here stanza 24.

2 July 2013 at 17:05  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

If C4 really wanted to be subversive then they could do one of those idents for Danish bacon before and after.

2 July 2013 at 17:31  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Now this is a damn interesting development. If the Inspector was tasked with being an agent provocateur, on behalf of the Christian establishment of this country, this is the very masterstroke he’d be dreaming about. And the timing is impeccable. This man is never going to forget the sight of Drummer Rigby’s Islamic killer drench in his blood holding the machete that killed him, killed for not being a muslim. Never, I tell you. And now this, mere weeks afterwards.

One hopes only good can come of this slap in the face by the Channel Whore. The strengthening of numbers of the EDL, for example. And perhaps an in-dept investigation into Islam. The ugly truth this time, not the sanitised version, including the amazing sight of Buddhists chasing muslim men into a field to kill them. If Buddhists, of all people, have been driven to that, what hope the rest of us ! God help us, there seems to be some inevitability about it, yet this man still hopes he’s wrong.

2 July 2013 at 18:06  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

One thing is for sure, Burmese Channel 4 or its equivalent will definitely not be indulging their Islamic community as Lee is doing. You see, Islam has been around in Burma for some centuries, and one is heartened that the indigenous population has the measure of them, most likely through the kind of bitter experience the West is only just experiencing for themselves.

For those of His Grace’s esteemed following whom would like to learn more, the Inspector recommends a Wiki article: “Persecution of Muslims in Burma”.

Though one would rather it was entitled “Burmese resistance to Islam”. Anyway, provides an insight of a country living with this blight. Even though it appears the thing was written from the muslim point of view, it may give us an idea of what to expect when it’s OUR turn.

I say, any of you clever chaps out there able to edit the article title ?

Pip Pip !

2 July 2013 at 18:08  
Blogger Peter D said...

Shame on the Channel 4.

They would do better publishing the recent beheading of a Catholic priest in Syria whilst crowds cheered and took photos.

Father Francois Murad was killed last weekend by Jihadi terrorists, then beheaded and a video published showing the brutal murder.

His 'crime'? Father Murad was setting up a monastery in Gassanieh, northern Syria. Last Sunday these Islamists, fighting to topple President Assad, entered the monastery and grabbed Father Murad.

May his soul rest in peace.

"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha."

2 July 2013 at 18:57  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Peter D.

May his soul rest in peace and rise in glory.

2 July 2013 at 19:42  
Blogger Amir Mohamed said...

Thank you Channel 4
but let me say something, if you play that we are grateful and if you don't play the our islamic call, we are grateful as well cause that will not make any big change in us or our spirit or our prayers, 99.99% of muslims around the world have Islamic Call apps, on pc, iPhone, Android, walkman, radio, channels such as Islamic Channel.

so guys calm down Channel 4 won't make a difference in us but YOU are an additional channel that will show that.


2 July 2013 at 19:42  
Blogger Matt A said...

Such nice people: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23139784

2 July 2013 at 19:55  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Watch out lads, the ‘peace’ of Islam is around. Tin hits on, and put that bloody light out...

2 July 2013 at 19:57  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Amir Mohamed;
Mohamed didn’t have all these gadgets so how are you allowed to use them? I thought everything had to be traditional.

2 July 2013 at 20:12  
Blogger Peter D said...

David Hussell

A martyr for Christ who is surely safe in the arms of his Father.

"May the Lord come quickly to take vengeance of thy crimes."

2 July 2013 at 20:17  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Now then chaps, here’s what to do if the peace of Islam turns up...

1. Keep calm and carry on
2. Know your escape route. very important that.
3. Get the tea on. nothing like a brew in adverse times, what !
4. Close all windows and sticky tape them across and diagonally.
5. Be assured the security forces will be along soon to disarm said peace thing.
6. Remember this. There will always be an England. And England will be free. If England means as much to you as England means to me.

2 July 2013 at 20:20  
Blogger Matt A said...

Inspector: Not sure I can rely on your 5th point.

2 July 2013 at 20:40  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Matt A. Head down son, wait for the all clear...

This is not a drill...

2 July 2013 at 20:43  
Blogger Nick said...

I think point 5 would have to be re-written as:

A channel 4 film crew will be at hand in case you don't respect the blighters "human" rights

2 July 2013 at 20:44  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace,

Channel 4 is on a stunt here; Muslims do not need an 'alarm clock' for their religion. I'd welcome the same coverage during Christian and Jewish festivals. And minus the bit of 'Jesus didn't exist' or 'the Exodus didn't happen' (as they'd never do the same with Islam- wasn't a Channel 4 series stopped after 1 episode, after it challenged the Islamic version?).

2 July 2013 at 21:30  
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2 July 2013 at 21:31  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Peter D,

The Churches in Syria are an ancient community and it is appalling to read of the persecution of these communities in the Middle Eastern Islamic regimes.

I think the Syrian Church even speak the same old language that Jesus would have spoken... yet the idiots want to arm these 'rebels' (or like Libya or Egypt one dictator is replaced by an even worse regime).

2 July 2013 at 21:32  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Inspector ,

Point number 6 :

'Remember this. There will always be an England. And England will be free. If England means as much to you as England means to me.'

Amen to that!

2 July 2013 at 21:40  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...


Jolly good 6 point plan.

Matt A, there are also the veterans of past conflicts who will rally to flag, if our beloved homeland is ever attacked, be it from within or without... and after that,my family know how to shoot, ride, sword fight and defence in personal combat.

2 July 2013 at 21:41  
Blogger Jay Bee said...

Lord Lavendon@21:30

It was the Untold Story documentary that C4 dropped. There were 1200 complaints and they feared violent retaliation from Islamic militants.

2 July 2013 at 21:48  
Blogger Matt A said...

Lord Lavendon: I have no doubt that the majority of readers here would rally to the flag. The point I made was that it seems increasingly unlikely that our "official" security forces would be reliable in such a case...

Don't worry, I have a trusty 12 bore!

2 July 2013 at 21:54  
Blogger david kavanagh said...

Your Grace,

On the plus side, I did watch channel 4, a Gok Wann show and only he could say 'we need to get your boobs out'. Not quite the tv show Muslims would approve of...

And I agree with you, in reference to equality we should have entirely uncritical shows of Christian prayers broadcast during lent, easter, christmas and Jewish prayers, including the shema and every Friday during Shabbat, at Rosh Hashanah, Passover, Yom Kippur, Purim and Hannukah...

I'm not holding my breath there, though.

2 July 2013 at 22:11  
Blogger david kavanagh said...

As an aside, I do find that there is somewhat historical re-writing as far as the basic facts of Islam are concerned and how do I say it something akin to 'brainwashing'. I did get into an argument with someone recently about Kosher vs Halal food. I was confidently told that Islamic law and religion came before Judaism. Which is historically incorrect, even from a purely 'secular' view...

2 July 2013 at 22:19  
Blogger david kavanagh said...


I have a trusty Katana and Irish claymore...

PS- just been watching BBC news. All about the crisis in Egypt and now the story about 'sharia' courts in rebel held Syria. And France and Britain want to ARM these guys?

2 July 2013 at 22:23  
Blogger Peter D said...

David K

From a Judeo-Christian perspective, Islam is based on a perverse reinterpretation of both Judaism and Christianity - formed in the mind of a power crazed man who was unhinged.

Some 'blame' this on the Catholic Church; others on Judaism. Just test their motives for an explanation.

2 July 2013 at 22:43  
Blogger Peter D said...


tut , tut, ... Lent, Easter and Christmas ..... (upper case)

2 July 2013 at 22:45  
Blogger david kavanagh said...


Are you a tad upset about Islamic prayers by St Paul's, do get used to it...

The holiest site in Judaism,Bet HaMikdash, (aka 'The Temple') was raised to the ground by the Romans and the later on, a mosque was built on the area where it used to stand, specifically built on the holy of holies and the eastern gate of Jerusalem (the Golden gate) that the Messiah will come from was walled up by Muslims in the 9th century, so the Jewish Messiah wouldn't be able to pass through it...

but he ho, all of that's perfectly OK and legal as far as the 'international community' is concerned (Jerusalem, should of course be part of a palastine state,duh!).

Nice, peaceful & entirely PC eh?

2 July 2013 at 22:47  
Blogger david kavanagh said...

Peter D,

I have tried to read the Q'uran in English and Arabic and it makes no sense to me whatsoever.

'Tut tut, tut'. Yes, sorry about the lack of caps there.

2 July 2013 at 22:50  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Inspector,

Wonderful 'best of British' plan there. But I think knowing how to wield a sword might be a bit better than making of cup of tea!

2 July 2013 at 23:12  
Blogger bluedog said...

Thanks David K @ 22.47, one is used to turning the cheek in the face of perpetual insults.

Channel4 are doing us a favour through their provocation, it will help to maintain the healthy fear of the Turk in Christendom. Meanwhile, remember the first rule of guerrilla warfare: when things go quiet, bomb your own side and blame the enemy! Now Channel4 are not on our side in this instance, however they have cast themselves in the role of useful idiots.

Perverse, no?

2 July 2013 at 23:52  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

It's a bit much, we,re not a muslim country. In that case how about full coverage of all Christian services from several main cathedrals from around the country all throughout the Easter and Christmas periods.
I suspect Ch4 are trying to increase their viewing figures as muslims view more TV during ramadam than any other time. But then they've got their own Islamic channels so why bother with a controversial channel like Ch4 run by the kuffar?

3 July 2013 at 01:20  
Blogger David Hussell said...

What about a mass move to desist paying the BBC License Fee until we get balanced, respectful coverage of Christian and Jewish themes? I am told that recording and replaying programs does not require a license so we could stay the right side of the law. A few million non-payers might have an impact.

3 July 2013 at 08:04  
Blogger Naomi King said...

I have not got any external verification (which I have asked for) but I was sent this information from Australia yesterday

The Queens representative in Australia saw fit to swear in a new government Minister (Parliamentary secretary), on the KORAN.

3 July 2013 at 08:17  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

@ David Hussell

... and what about the BBC ceasing referring to Islamic pedophiles as 'Asians', especially as the last gang of 'Asians' included two Africans?

3 July 2013 at 09:24  
Blogger bluedog said...

Your Grace, an unforgiveable omission but Many Happy Returns of yesterday, your Five Hundred and Twenty Fourth birthday.

Break out the party-hats, jelly, crackers and hooters!

3 July 2013 at 09:42  
Blogger bluedog said...

Naomi King @ 08.17, fyi: http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4796682.html

3 July 2013 at 10:19  
Blogger Preacher said...

Gents, there seems to be a lot of huffing & puffing. Read your Bibles! Jesus Christ Wins!. Sure it will get tough to be a real Christian. But it's all there in the Book.
Jesus died to give sinful men the chance to be saved. ALL sinful men, remember Saul?. What were the chances of him making it?.
The answer to Channel 4's stunt is to follow the command of Jesus. "Make disciples of all Nations." preach the gospel to all mankind. We need radical believers who will live & die for Christ & for the salvation of many. Even those that oppose Him. "Father forgive them, they know not what they do!".
When a sinner meets the risen Lord, that man will not be able to resist His Glory & beauty. Many who were born in the Islamic & other faiths, or even no faith are now embracing Jesus as Lord & saviour, just like Saul.
It's up to us, but we need more than the Beeb's songs of praise to reach them.
"The Fields are ripe unto harvest, but the labourers are few. Pray the Father to send more labourers into the field."

3 July 2013 at 10:42  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Preacher, you’re not wrong there. Nothing like a bit of competition to get nominal Christians thinking about, well, being more Christian.

Perhaps the EDL, for example, will invite priests to be chaplains to their order. That would be rather splendid, what !

3 July 2013 at 11:12  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Such outrage!Is this not what you all voted for,and continue to vote for every five years?namely the dis-possession of the English people from their country and their relagation to third class status,this is the agenda of the blue,yellow and red party,one beast with three heads,and have we not had time to correct this monsterous invasion in the last fifty years?sorry I forgot you all were to busy calling your countrymen racist.

3 July 2013 at 12:29  
Blogger The Judicious Hooker said...

In addition to the opening 'prayers' YR mentions, our Mohammedan friends repeat the first surah (chapter) of the Koran. (They are arranged according to length as no one really knows the order. Allah or his prophet apparently don't do chronology as anyone who attempts to read it will soon find out).

This opening surah is recited five times daily to affirm spiritual (and political) Islamo-supremacy over God's Chosen people the Jews ('who have Allah's wrath on them') and over Christians ('who have gone astray'). Lex orandi, lex credendi = you pray what you believe.

An interesting comparison can be made if one compares the opening of YG's Liturgy of the Lord's Supper in your first and never-to-be-bettered rite of 1549. It opens with an introit psalm, the Lord's Prayer and the Collect of Purity...lex credendi, lex orandi.

3 July 2013 at 14:17  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

There seems to be something of an over-reaction here. It's a TV show. It's a TV show that will be watched by almost no one. I think the actual offense here is that Channel 4 will allow Islam to present itself on its own terms. By contrast, the Christian faith is relentlessly deconstructed from some alleged 'neutral position of objectivity.' . That makes sense to me since Secularists launched the 'culture war' to remove Christian influence from the public square. The primary purpose behind treating Islam seriously is to demonstrate the non-uniqueness of Christianity.

But still. It's a TV show.


3 July 2013 at 14:22  
Blogger Ian G said...

Re: your comment 's an aside, I do find that there is somewhat historical re-writing as far as the basic facts of Islam are concerned and how do I say it something akin to 'brainwashing'. I did get into an argument with someone recently about Kosher vs Halal food. I was confidently told that Islamic law and religion came before Judaism. Which is historically incorrect, even from a purely 'secular' view...'

What you need to understand is that it was revealed to Mohammed by Jibrail(allegedly Gabriel) that Adam was a Muslim, but mankind went astray. The OT prophets were all Muslims, allegedly, and the Jews perverted the scripture. Ditto Jesus and so on. It now become a clash of revelations rather than historical accuracy. They will always trump argument with the Qur'an and Muhammad. You can't win. This battle will only be won by prayer.

3 July 2013 at 14:38  
Blogger LEN said...

Amen to that Preacher.(3 July 2013 10:42)

God will raise up an army of Spirit filled believers in these last days to preach His Word without fear and trepidation and without bowing to the dictates of the corrupt' moral values' of this present evil World system.

3 July 2013 at 14:45  
Blogger LEN said...

Ian G,, Ask a Muslim WHEN the Jews corrupted the Bible?.
Was if before Mohammed or after Mohammed?. This question raises major problems for Muslims.

(Interesting article relating to above)


3 July 2013 at 14:58  
Blogger Trevor Bailey said...

I once had the utmost regard for Channel 4's thought provoking programmes on a variety of subjects. But in September 2012 Channel 4 showed Tom Holland's documentary "Islam: The Untold Story" on the Tuesday. There was going to be a second screening the following Sunday but after complaints and threats from muslims Channel 4 declined. It seems muslims are not to be criticised or are not to be openly have their belief of this so called prophet (who was a war lord, a mass murderer and rapist) or the question the koran without fear of apostasy. So far, no religious faith has proof of the existence of god. Broadcasting ramadam for a whole month some how gives muslims legitimacy for their belief. And for the muslim a mild for of Jihad. I refer you to the following article: www.answeringmulims.com/p/jihad.htnl

3 July 2013 at 16:28  
Blogger Hannah Kavanagh said...

Hi Ian G,

Isn't it strange, though, that a deity would use two intermediaries to communicate the one true and final message of humanity and then compile said holy book after said holy prophet had died?

I have read on the BBC news site, that guys in Syria are being whipped for crimes (without being judged in a court of law first) & that the 'rebels', who want an Islamic state of Syria and are killing the ancient Christian community and have, under what looks like mob rule, have recently killed a 14 year old boys for 'blasphamy' in front of her mother (at the same time the guardian continues its anti-israeli stance).

I don't really understand this, because Islamists are the one religion I am unable to 'connect' with, despite trying.

I get on well with Bhuddists, Catholics, Anglicans, Sikhs (my uncle's best friend and body guards are Sikh), Hindus, atheists and the religion of the Chinese, although I'm not quite sure what that is btw, but Mr and Mrs Cheung at no 82 are very nice and friendly toward their Jewish neigbours.

3 July 2013 at 18:14  
Blogger Youthpasta said...

Far better would have been for C4 to do a programme on the Muslim Bank system.
Saw a new item about it earlier today and was very impressed with their principles. They could really put the mainstream banking system to shame!
If they'd gone at it this way C4 could have used their poking stick and possibly dne some good with it. Instead we have so,etching which almost certainly is being done to provoke controversy for the sake of it, which is just pathetic.

3 July 2013 at 21:37  
Blogger Mr Grumpy said...

Cracking post, but slightly ironic that I'm seeing an ad at the top of the page from something called the Minhaj Welfare Foundation, inviting me to "sponsor a Hafiz". A Hafiz, I understand, is someone who has memorised the entire Qur'an. Is there nothing you can do, Your Grace?

4 July 2013 at 11:13  
Blogger Anglican said...

I recall that up to the early 1980s BBC Radio 3 broadcast, at 10.45pm, a 15 minute religious programme on the first and last Sunday in the month. One was the Litany, one was Compline, from the Book of Common Prayer (1928 in the case of Compline).

4 July 2013 at 17:07  

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