Thursday, August 22, 2013

Violence in Sweden, echoes in Britain

From Mr Alexander Boot:

On Saturday a pregnant Muslim woman was viciously attacked in a Stockholm suburb for wearing a hijab.

She ended up in hospital, while the cause of persecuted Muslims was splashed all over the papers. A group of prominent Swedish women posted on the Internet photos of themselves wearing head scarves. These were accompanied by a heart-felt statement, warning of an impending “march of fascism.”

It’s hard not to sympathise. It’s even harder not to wonder if this is a taste of things to come all over Europe.

For this is historically how fascism begins: driven by various motives, bien pensant or otherwise, a modern state creates a crisis of one kind or another, be it economic, military or social.

The state then proves impotent to deal with the crisis, clearing the way for virile individuals to cope as they see fit. The toothpaste of social unrest comes out of the tube and it can’t be put back.

Sweden is a good example. As a result of its government’s irresponsible immigration policy, about five percent of the country’s population is now Muslim, while Sweden’s third-largest city Malmö is predominantly Islamic.

Alas, many Muslims refuse not only to assimilate but indeed to integrate into the ambient society. Moreover, they routinely express hostility to it, and not just in Sweden.

Riots in the banlieues of Paris unfold to the screams of Nique la France! (the verb means f***). Sweden too was rocked by riots this year, and the battle cries were an accurate translation from the French.

Indiscriminate attacks on Christians and especially Jews have become routine, and in fact Malmö’s Jews are emigrating in droves. Earlier this year, two Iranian converts to Christianity have been stabbed to death.

Al-Qaeda’s magazine Inspire has advised Muslims to sabotage the transport sector. The call to arms has been heeded: stones are often thrown at the windscreens of speeding cars, and large rocks are being placed on the roads. As a result, a car carrying a visiting Danish family overturned and the whole family of five suffered serious injuries.

None of this will come as a shock to British, French, Spanish or Dutch readers – such incidents aren’t exclusive to Sweden and they are escalating. In fact attacks on churches and synagogues are mounting – many are desecrated by graffiti featuring a pig’s head.

This in no way excuses the criminal assault on the Muslim woman in Sweden, and I hope its perpetrators will be suitably punished. But perhaps the motivation behind incidents of this kind can be seen more clearly in the light thrown by dozens of cars burning in the background.

Thugs will be thugs, and they’ll always find an excuse for violence. But even law-abiding Swedes are aghast at what’s happening in their formerly peaceful country. Sweden got aggression out of its system in the 18th century, when it fought its last war. Now violence is being imported.

What recourse do they have? No civilised person can countenance arbitrary violence – so what are the civilised options?

Precious few, as is the case in any country where democratic secularism has vanquished to a point where no competition is allowed. Nigel Farage hinted at this the other day when he said that “The whip hand is now so firmly with the bureaucrats – they hold all the cards – that possibly violence is the only way out of this.”

He was talking specifically about the EU bureaucracy, but the same applies to any national variety. This unfortunate situation can be traced back to the very nature of modern, which is to say, total democracy unleavened by Christianity.

Unlike the traditional monarchies of Christendom, a modern democracy can’t derive its legitimacy from any transcendent origin. Its legitimacy can only come from a purely secular proposition, which, courtesy of John Locke, is usually defined as ‘consent of the governed’.

How was this consent given? Obviously this can’t be accurately traced back to any specific time and place.

Arbitrarily we can choose any past event, such as the Glorious Revolution. But this would imply that 300-odd years ago Englishmen issued an irrevocable consent to be governed by the same method of government in eternity. If so, how can they reaffirm or withdraw their consent?

Elections taking place every few years are supposed to serve this purpose. But that would imply that 30 percent of the populace (a proportion these days seen as sufficient to provide a mandate for even sweeping constitutional changes) can give consent on behalf of the other 70 percent.

That’s clearly nonsensical. I for one never agreed to successive British governments extorting half of what I earn, and neither do I recall being in a position to vote for a less voracious expropriator in the last 20 years.

Locke saw all those paradoxes clearly, which is why he issued an implicit endorsement of revolution as the only realistic way for the people to withdraw their consent. A modern, secular democracy provides for no peaceful means, especially since differences among mainstream parties are fading away.

That’s why the danger of escalating violence is real in Europe. It can be triggered off by the indigenous people feeling that their country is being taken away from them – either by a supranational bureaucracy, as Nigel Farage would have it, or by a seismic demographic shift, or perhaps by an economic collapse.

Sweden, France and other European countries are dropping hints to that effect all over the place. Is anyone listening?

Alexander Boot is a writer on political, cultural and religious themes

51 Comments:

Blogger john b said...

25% of Malmo's population is Muslim. Where on earth did you get "predominantly Islamic" from?

22 August 2013 07:19  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Very disturbing.

I have seen the Muslim population of my city grow very rapidly over the last few years particularly. Groups of Somali men hang around on the corners of St Mary's street talking into mobile phones, while veiled women push prams with toddlers in tow. Call me a bigot, but I have a sneaky little feeling that these folks are taking a lot out of the economy and putting rather little back. Of course I don't have any hard evidence of that, it cannot be collected for political reasons.

I don't blame these people for wanting to escape from Somalia, but I suspect that they have brought with them the values and traditions which turned that country into a hell hole. They have travelled 4,000 miles to get here. Why?

I have a few ideas. I can just hear the Imams preaching 'Go to Britain! They pay you to have children there! If you have 4 children, they have to give you a big house-its their law! And then you can use each daughter to get another brother UK citizenship by marriage! Allah has clearly given them into our hands!

Nobody ever asked me if I wanted mass Islamic immigration, but if I say I don't like it I am an evil racist bigot like Geert Wilders, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.

While canvassing for UKIP at the Eastleigh by election earlier this year, I spoke to a Labour voter, a woman who vigorously objected to the immigrants who have arrived here in such abundance being given preferential access social housing and said she was disenchanted with Labour but was still going to vote for them anyway.


And there we have it.

22 August 2013 07:33  
Blogger Drastic Plastic said...

There are race riots taking place in this country too; but not being reported. There have been riots against Portugese immigrant workers in Thetford, of all places, but it's been hushed up and only reported to a limited extent locally. I'm told the same has been happening in Cornwall. I suspect it is happening everywhere.

In Wisbech, in the fens, around 30% of the town is now immigrants, brought in to work for free (essentially) on the land in hopes of getting a British passport.

I'm sick of the treachery of the establishment. Far better to have a leader the left would call "fascist" (e.g. Margaret Thatcher) who is on our side, than "democratic" leaders who in fact merely belong to a small clique and are determined to screw all of us over. It was pretty telling that Cameron and Milliband were both seeing the same posh girl at one point, wasn't it?

I too object to being fleeced of half my income, to the extent that I don't know how I will live when I get old.

22 August 2013 08:13  
Blogger Naomi King said...


Very well said Mr Boot. Commenters have been saying much the same on this blog for a couple of years or more.

22 August 2013 08:13  
Blogger Naomi King said...


Maybe the point is the elite, aka at the moment those that went to Eton, have no allegiance to the Nation State anymore being in the class of the Internationally rich and super rich. They have no interest in the middle and working classes of their county. There friends are all international politicians. Where do they all go on holiday ? To their foreign rich friends villa's in Italy or The West Indies etc. It is my view that the vast wealth of the European Union political machine has made this all very much worse.

22 August 2013 08:20  
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22 August 2013 08:39  
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22 August 2013 08:45  
Blogger Naomi King said...


"Groups of Somali men hang around on the corners of St Mary's street talking into mobile phones, while veiled women push prams with toddlers in tow." Well said Rambling Steve. The average fecundity of islamic women is 6.8 children the average for white weston women is 1.1, it doesn't take long to do the demographic maths does it. Christian women need to start having babies and quickly !

22 August 2013 08:53  
Blogger Alexander Boot said...

'Predominantly' in this instance refers not to the arithmetic majority of 50% plus one but to a cultural, political and social presence. When a quarter of the population is aggressively ideological and the rest is passively docile, it is the former that will dominate affairs. One can observe this in every city (and there are many of those everywhere in Europe, including our own Bradford, Birmingham, Leeds, Leicester) where Muslims make up a quarter to a third of the population. Whole boroughs insist on Sharia laws taking precedence over the law of the land, while the nominally Christian but in fact mostly agnostic and indifferent majority meekly limps along. In the same vein neither the Bolsheviks in Russia nor the Nazis in Germany enjoyed an arithmetic majority -- which didn't prevent them from being the dominant force in those countries at the time.

22 August 2013 08:56  
Blogger David Hussell said...

The strength of English society was that there were linkages vertically, between the classes, not just horizontally, binding it all together by customs and Christian faith. But we now, as Naomi King says, we have a disconnect between classes, so the political elite act totally selfishly whilst pretending to be "democratic", whatever that means in practice nowadays. This coupled with creeping restrictions on free speech is all pushing towards serious social rupture.

22 August 2013 08:57  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Rambling Steve,

I have had the same experience. I stood for Ukip recently and met people who would simultaneously complain vociferously about unemployed Brits. and excessive immigration, but when asked if I would get their vote replied, " Oh no I've always voted Labour ! " When will they wake up ?

22 August 2013 09:03  
Blogger Godric said...

I live in Sweden and would just like to make a couple of points that His Grace's readers may not be aware of:

1. The reported assault on the pregnant Muslim woman should be treated with a certain degree of cautious skepticism. The story has been reported in an extremely indirect, word-of-mouth way, and convenient details were being filled in by Twitter activists before any police or journalistic source had confirmed them.

2. The initial reports simply stated that a pregnant Muslim woman had been attacked in a car park and had her head banged against the car. There was nothing about the identity or motives of the attacker. Then it began to emerge that the victim believed the attacker's motive was based on her being "not Christian". There was still nothing more detailed than this and the police determined the case to be not worth investigating.

3. The left wing activist crowd on Twitter sensed an opportunity and went into overdrive, adding in the missing details with speculation and supposed second hand reports from "a girl I know on Facebook who knows the girl it happened to" and so forth: by the time they were done, the attacker was a racist man or men of ethnic Swedish origin who shouted racist abuse during the attack and said that they "wanted her hijab". There is no evidence that any of this is true and the police still do not have any official description of the attacker(s).

4. A man phoned into the Swedish state radio broadcaster to say that he had witnessed the attack and that it was the woman's own Muslim husband who had attacked her in a domestic dispute and the story had been changed for police to avoid embarrassment.

5. There is a recent history in Sweden of Muslims making false reports of racist attacks for political reasons. A Somali woman accused a member of the immigration-critical Sverigedemokraterna party (comparable to UKIP) of assaulting her and knocking her to the ground in a supermarket. Unfortunately for her, the shop had CCTV and showed that she had assaulted HIM, before throwing herself to the ground and pretending to have been hit.

6. As the above entry rightly suggests, Sweden is currently a bubbling cauldron of cultural tension due to the unprecedented levels of immigration from Muslim countries (primarily Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and lately Syria). There are many people on both sides of the political spectrum seeking to exploit this for their own careerist ends - not least the self-proclaimed activists and community spokespersons on Twitter who were behind the recent hijab protest, and have obviously been planning it for some time.

7. I cannot stress enough how much the attack on the pregnant woman, even if it does turn out to be perpetrated by a Swede, is entirely anomalous and in no way part of some trend or pattern of attacks on Muslims by Swedes as the activists would have you believe. Despite significant anger and resentment across the country about what's seen as the irresponsible immigration policies of Fredrik Reinfeldt's government, Swedes remain as remarkably passive and restrained - if being unkind one might even say docile - as any native population could conceivably be. Indeed, this incident, if confirmed, would be as nothing to the very long list of violent and sexual assaults perpetrated against Swedes by Muslim immigrants - not to mention the shameful case of the Jews being driven out of Malmö by the city's new residents.

8. His Grace's readers may also incidentally be interested to know that attacks on churches have also risen recently in Sweden, though the pathetic, toothless Swedish media do their best not to inquire into it. A church in Karlskrona was burnt down in a suspected arson attack several days ago and my local church, perhaps the country's finest Renaissance construction, has been repeatedly vandalised over the last year by Muslim youths, with windows smashed, the organ damaged and fire extinguishers set off inside.

22 August 2013 09:05  
Blogger Naomi King said...


We all have to remember that the Quran sanctions and encourages muslims to lie.

22 August 2013 09:12  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

Muslims should be assumed to be lying unless it can be proved otherwise.

There is a huge 'Islamophobia' grievance industry based on bogus claims of victimhood, as was recently shown with 'Tell Mama' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/10108098/Muslim-hate-monitor-to-lose-backing.html

22 August 2013 10:10  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Isn't religion wonderful?

22 August 2013 10:11  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

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22 August 2013 10:25  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Could communicants please stop posting links to to random websites of dubious provenance without any accompanying argument. This is a forum for discussion and debate; not hyperlink pimping.

22 August 2013 10:29  
Blogger Philip said...

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22 August 2013 10:40  
Blogger Philip said...

"differences among mainstream parties are fading away." Indeed.

Perhaps if there is true democracy, then voters would have the ability to change policy. But just because there are elections doesn't mean there is democracy in the sense that the election result will lead to a change of policy direction or any substantial difference in policy.

The fact is we're governed by a metropolitan liberal ruling elite, and whichever of its’ three parties (Lab, LibDem, or Cameron "Conservatives") are in govt, the overall policy direction is the same- e.g. on keeping us locked into the EU super-state, on multiculturalism (i.e. all cultures promoted, but Christianity supressed), on gay 'marriage' and implementing the demands of the homosexual lobby.

Didn’t the USSR have elections but all the candidates needed to be communists? Now exchange communists for metro-lib ruling elite.

22 August 2013 10:43  
Blogger Naomi King said...


Godric I believe is very accurate in his analysis of the situation in Sweden. Apart from my devoted Christian friends at Livets Ord (Word of Life) and their associated churches I think that many Swedish people lack backbone.

I'm sure that you know that they adopted a neutral position during World War II, and despite their Viking ancestry 80 years of socialism has weakened them as a people. The spiritual principalities of the Islamic world will have identified them as a soft target, let's hope that some of the Viking spirit surfaces through this for the right reasons.

I have forward this post to my friends in Sweden.

22 August 2013 10:55  
Blogger Nick said...

I am currently on holiday in Paris. It is to celebrity the 10th anniversary of meeting my wife here. On arrival we were truly shocked at the changes compared to 10 years ago. Standing in one packed Metro station we were just about the only white couple.

Islam is all-pervasive inparts of Paris and we were warned to be carsful with our bags because of the "multi-culturalism".

It seems that RU countries have little respect for their nation, especially its Christian heritage. The MC god must be served. This disjoint between political class and populace is deadly. Inthe UK we have the Lib/Lab/Con troika which is essentially one super-party because whoeverr is in power emulates the policies of the other, especially on immigration and political correctness.

I am not yet a UKIP member. For me they are still under observation to see how much they emulating the others. If they can maintain that independance from knee-jerk no-brains mindless political correctness then I will join

22 August 2013 10:59  
Blogger Nick said...

For RU read EU

22 August 2013 11:02  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Philip,

Exactly. We have the outward voting mechanics of democracy, its technology if you like, but whilst all three parties serve up the same nation state destroying formula, choice is but an illusion. It is merely a means to lull the electorate into accepting the inevitable demise of their country, and its former, almost universally shared, or at least accepted, Christianity based framework. Then all must bow the knee to the new super state, the EU, governing using Secular Humanism. True democracy will be utterly dead. That's the plan anyway. But such grandiose plans always unravel, often painfully. But first, before that, we must try to succeed using the ballot box.

22 August 2013 11:16  
Blogger Youthpasta said...

Strange thing about democracy, when bereft if Christian influence, is that it is all about the people and what they vote for. Those that don't vote eventually get a government or laws they didn't want and they declare that there must be change because it is not true democracy. You see the same happening in the "Arab Spring" countries, where the West encouraged the downfall of the dictators (and whichever other forms of rule were in place) and supported the people's right to vote for what they wanted, then cried foul when the people didn't vote for a western-style democratic party.

We will see the same here if we are not careful, either with the current political class being allowed to dictate to us what true freedom is (oh the joy of a police-state-when-the-government-feels-like-it) and the right way to live are, or when the most reactionary parts of our society (be they extreme political or religious zealots) decide they have had enough.

The question is, can the people who like the status quo (or even those of us that prefer how things were a few years ago, before social engineering was taken to higher heights than simply trying to enable people to improve themselves) get their act together before the radicals decide to act? Or will the political class increase their grip on power and make it harder to oust them?
I know the timescale for this is in the decades, if not longer, but I can easily see either catastrophe happening eventually.

22 August 2013 11:26  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Nick,

I like the simple but effective phrase, "one super-party" - very apt and descriptive.

Joining Ukip. If I may say ..... now is the time for action, as the rot in national politics has gone so far. People like you are very much needed, now. The Euro elections are coming up fast, and then the GE. I can understand you wanting a monitoring period but, for how long ? Time is of the essence. People like you will ensure that Ukip retains its resolve. Read the policy statements on their site, get in touch with your local branch and jump in is my plea. Too many good people are watching on the sidelines and letting the political class do it to them. This is supposed to be a democracy not a spectator sport.
End of sermon.

22 August 2013 11:29  
Blogger Naomi King said...


We need urgently to "raise up Godly seed".

It is not enough for congregations to seek to save those broken by the Godless corrupt world view they have seen their parents and grandparents adopt. We must turn back to a Godly view of Patriarchal family life where the Father is the Priest of the Home, where daily devotions are the norm not the exception, where children are raised by Godfearing, loving and disciplining wives, in their homes and not at 'day orphanages' aka child care and Godless, morally rotten to the core state schools. Your Church of England primary schools won't do the job ! We are going to have to be a lot less selfish.

22 August 2013 11:39  
Blogger bluedog said...

You can feel it coming, can't you Mr Boot?

The perpetrators of the demographic catastrophe in Europe are clearly incapable of solving the problem they have thoughtless allowed. It's the same as with the EU, when things go wrong, the answer is more Europe. So too with demography; when multiculturalism fails, the answer is more multiculturalism because the failure indicates that there has not been enough.

Prior to 1996, Britain was a solvent first world country with a high degree of social cohesion. Nearly twenty years later, thanks to Blair and his idiot heir, Britain is near bankrupt, over-run by Muslims and still in thrall to the EU. It can't go on.

If the matter is to be resolved through the existing democratic system, time is of the essence. Every year is another year in which the position of the indigenous population erodes and that of the Muslims relatively strengthens. On current form, none of LibLabCon shows any sign of recognition of the risks. If those with a grip on reality in LibLabCon can see where things are heading they are keeping very quiet about their insight. Perhaps the career risks of appearing racist are too inhibiting within LibLabCon. '

Nigel Farage at UKIP undoubtedly understands but lacks competent support. The talent pool at UKIP seems very shallow.

You say, 'Locke saw all those paradoxes clearly, which is why he issued an implicit endorsement of revolution as the only realistic way for the people to withdraw their consent. A modern, secular democracy provides for no peaceful means, especially since differences among mainstream parties are fading away.'

But if you are suggesting revolution there are two points that need to be made. Firstly the surveillance powers of the modern state are so intrusive that no group can organise itself without leaving an easily detectable electronic trail. Secondly, if a revolt starts and fails the situation becomes even worse. The victorious political elite acquire new legitimacy and the fools who continue to vote for their betrayers will have their folly validated.

It is a constant in human society that very little pre-emptive action is ever taken in the face of a gathering storm. In this regard the return of the British Army from Germany and Afghanistan could be significant in two ways. Firstly there will simply be more Lee Rigbys running around in Britain and vulnerable to Islamo-macho gangs who want to out do each other. Secondly one reads that an expanded role is in the offing for British forces in the Gulf as the US redeploys to confront and contain China. Whether our lads will be in Bahrain to protect the emir from his own subjects or to protect the Gulf tyrannies from outside threats is unknown. But it promises to be a thankless and dangerous task. British casualties in the Gulf as a result of this poorly defined mission could be politically explosive, as will be any further outrage within the UK.

In short, just as the EU is now a discredited proposition, one can begin to identify reasons why the Islamic population will move towards a state of total rejection on the part of indigenous British opinion.

Will there be another job for the Army?

22 August 2013 11:41  
Blogger Naomi King said...


What ever happened to God's injunction to be fruitful and multiply ?

22 August 2013 11:46  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

The nightmare scenario, which no one seems to be considering, is that this looming civil war will first kick off in some of the less stable members of the EU.

The displaced grievance-ridden jihadist populations will then be expelled, probably not to their ancestral homelands, but to more tolerant EU countries (the jihadists are all EU citizens entitled to settle anywhere).

This is likely to dreate a domino effect of expulsions with increasingly aggrieved jihadists eventually moving en masse to the most Islamophilic countries of the EU, eg Scotland.

22 August 2013 11:54  
Blogger Naomi King said...


Come on where are the REAL men of God ?

22 August 2013 11:56  
Blogger Naomi King said...


When you turn to the gospels you discover Jesus as a man, who we’re told was born to bring division, and who would be the cause of the destruction and salvation of many people (Luke 2:34; 12:51; Matt.10:34).

You discover a man who spoke the truth and spoke up publicly against hypocrisy calling the religious leaders in his day snakes fit for hell, and decomposing corpses that stunk and polluted others (Matt.3:7; 23:27, 33).

You discover a man who thought his disciples were slow and let them know about it (Matt.17:17).

You discover a man who threatened judgment to those who were spiritual unfruitfulness (Luke 13:6-9).

You discover a man who got physical when he saw God’s name dishonored (Mark.11:15-17).

The Bible’s picture of Jesus is one of a man who openly confronted lies and deception, who spoke the truth boldly, who spoke up against hypocrisy, who spoke judgment, who wasn’t afraid to embarrass those who deserved it, who jealously acted to guard God’s honor, and who wasn’t trying to please everyone.

Jesus was no milksop, he wasn’t a sensitive, "nurturing" new age guy, and he wasn’t a bearded woman. In fact, in the last book of the Bible, Jesus is portrayed as a divine warrior who initiates God’s final salvation and judgment (Rev.19:11-21)

22 August 2013 11:58  
Blogger NamronMit said...

Immigration is an issue that we have to face as a country. We need to make sure that there is not a clash of cultures, and that immigrants can be peacefully integrated.

More worrying, however, is that Christianity is facing assaults both the growing atheism in our culture, and through the growing number of people from other cultures moving into ours, and bringing their own religion with them.

A successful country needs God at its heart, it needs a solid rock in Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. In a time when the world is changing, and immigration is changing Britain, we must spread the good news of the gospel.

Immigration controls might be necessary, but what is essential is that we pray and spread love within our communities. Surely that is the best way to integrate people, whether they are from a different culture or simply lost in our own.

22 August 2013 11:58  
Blogger NamronMit said...

Also, Naomi King @11:58 makes a fantastic point.

22 August 2013 11:59  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

Our view of the world is distorted by media that are so biassed they deserve little or no credence. I get most of my news these days from alternative websites. Here is a story you won't hear on Channel 4 News.
It comes from my blog but in case Cranmer disapproves of me posting links
http://juliagasper.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/what-are-we-doing-to-help-fellow.html
I will include the whole text.
A 15-year-old Christian girl called Mariam was seized from her home in Qusayr, in the district of Homs a few weeks ago.
The town was captured by Syrian rebels earlier this year. Mariam was abducted by militia of the jihadist group Jabhat al-Nusra and forced to marry the commander of the militia. After raping her, he announced the next morning that he was divorcing her, and handed her over to one of his fellow-soldiers, who married and raped her likewise. This was repeated on 15 consecutive days with 15 consecutive "husbands". Mariam showed signs of madness, and they killed her.
The story was reported by Fathers Issam and Elias, two Greek Orthodox priests who are working in the area trying to help victims.
The sheik Yasir al-Ajlawni, a salafist of Jordanian origin, now living in Damascus – has issued a fatwa declaring that rebels against the régime of Bashar al-Assad have the right to rape any Syrian woman who is not a sunni Muslim. This means all Shia Muslims and Christians. To make his fatwas bang up-to-date, he issued it over the internet, using "social media".
Here are some pictures of her family praying for her, before the militants sacked and desecrated their church.
http://corsicapatrianostra.net/index.php?article=157

22 August 2013 12:20  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

the danger of escalating violence is real in Europe

A violent resolution of the post-war policies of Third World immigration and Islamization becomes more likely by the day. At present, the British worry far more about sidestepping accusations of racism than about the legacy of racial and religious strife they are bequeathing to their children and grandchildren; mention the only contemporary political party that has always faced up to the truth about the instability of a multi-ethnic, multi-faith society and you’re as welcome as a pork pie at a bar mitzvah.

The three main parties, by encouraging mass immigration and importing a barbaric religion, have committed an act of betrayal so far-reaching it journeys beyond treason to evil. All the more appalling, then, that the betrayal has the full support of the Churches who, as Britain changes beyond recognition, can only bleat about tolerance. The plainly certifiable Bishop of Bradford, noting that some of his parishes are 95 per cent Muslim, describes that woeful state of affairs as ‘a fantastic opportunity’.

Our present political and Church leaders may well not live to see the Armageddon they are helping to bring about. No matter, they’ll be able to watch from Hell.

22 August 2013 13:05  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

Re:

"virile individuals to cope as they see fit"

Individuals of course have no capacity to exact justice for any specific crime. They typically exact vengeance from a representative of the hated collective. "You kill my people and I will kill your people.". If you want a race war, that is a good way to get it. But you had better be sure you can win. You had better be sure you are ruthless enough to win. Such a war is not governed by the Geneva Convention. And you had better be prepared for the aftermath if you win. The men - and it will be men - who fight it won't go home once it is over. They will expect to rule.

I don't know what you think virile individuals can do to cope. If you follow this road you will inevitably destroy everything you think you are defending.

carl

22 August 2013 13:57  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

This discussion is not about 'religion' you sloganising Dawkinist its about the effects of the mass Islamic immigration which was foisted on an unwilling Europe by the ruling left liberal elite.

Communicants here are well aware of the Dawkinist strategy of tarring all people of faith with the same brush. Many are also aware of the leftist strategy to use Muslim immigration as part of the dechristianisation agenda, as in Google Andrew Neather.

22 August 2013 14:33  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Naomi you might be interested in an essay/bible study I wrote entitled 'Is creationism divisive? I won't post a link but its on the Creation Science Movement web site.

The primary conclusion I reached was that all matters of truth are divisive and thst furthermore Jesus of Nazereth was HIGHLY divisive and made no bones about it.

A character in CS Lewis'great novel That Hideous Strength, the chemist Bill Hingest, when told by a sociologist that there are several ways of viewing something, responded that that may be so until you know the truth, after that there is only ever one.

Truth divides. Jesus said so.

22 August 2013 14:46  
Blogger Naomi King said...


Absolutely Steve.

22 August 2013 14:51  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

When will they wake up?

Returning wounded, sad and angry from the Spanish civil war, as the storm clouds gathered, George Orwell pondered the same question. Near the end of Homage to Catalonia he spoke of people

...' dreaming the deep, deep sleep of England from which I fear we they will not wake until draggedcoutbof it by the roarcof bombs.'

22 August 2013 14:57  
Blogger seanrobsville said...

@ Rambling Steve

"Communicants here are well aware of the Dawkinist strategy of tarring all people of faith with the same brush."

This is known as 'collateral damage', it is actually having an effect, and the odd thing is that indigenous Christianity seems to be taking the flak, rather than other 'foreign' religions such as Buddhism (which is currently wisely marketing itself as a philosophy plus applied psychology while downplaying the religious aspects).

22 August 2013 15:29  
Blogger Owl said...

Carl,

the situation is that that the UK people are already watching all that they would like to defend being destroyed.

The real problem is how to conserve the british society.

The political way would, of course, be the right way. But what do you do if the political establishment are aiding and abetting the destruction?

I think we are beginning to see the tip of the very angry iceberg.

22 August 2013 15:33  
Blogger Humble African said...

Naomi @11:58, chills.

I pray your prayers be answered shortly. God remains God. Hey, you remind me of Deborah in the bible.

God bless.

22 August 2013 15:54  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

@ Godric.
Thank you for a very interesting and informative post. We would indeed to be wise to regard such reports with caution and administer a large handful of salt.

22 August 2013 17:03  
Blogger Julia Gasper said...

@ Rambling Steve Appleseed. Democracy is supposed to give you a choice between the faces of two alternative dummies - not to let you have a say in the major and fundamental things that actually transform your country!

22 August 2013 17:05  
Blogger John Wrake said...

Your Grace,

Those who have commented constantly refer to the problems arising from uncontrolled immigration.

The first obvious answer it to control our own borders, but our failure to do so is not the fault of EU rules. The problem lies deeper.

Our problem stems form a Parliament which is unconstitutional.

Our written Constitution provides the safeguards to the liberty of the individual who abides by Common Law, but Parliamentarians of both Houses, with the honourable exception of a few individuals, aided and abetted by bureacrats with a socialist agenda, have been acting unlawfully for many years, claiming the right to change the Constitution to suit their programme.

Until Members throw off the constraints placed upon them by Party Whips acting unlawfully, the freedoms enshrined in our historic Constitution and Common Law will continue to be flouted.

John Wrake.

22 August 2013 18:07  
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22 August 2013 19:29  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

O God.

Getting very, very fed-up of the multi-identity personalities - yes, you - who feel the compulsion to turn every thread into a tantrum against against homosexuality. Stop it, for God's sake. Just stop it.

22 August 2013 19:42  
Blogger bluedog said...

Carl @ 13.57 says, 'Such a war is not governed by the Geneva Convention.'

Well that's the first bit of good news we've heard from you.

22 August 2013 21:48  
Blogger Anne Thrope said...

To the person called Nick who wrote"I am not yet a UKIP member. For me they are still under observation to see how much they emulating the others. If they can maintain that independance from knee-jerk no-brains mindless political correctness then I will join"
I would say, don't passively wait and see. What you need to do is get together with a band of like-minded friends, and all join UKIP then go to a conference and propose a motion that the party rejects PC notions. Stand up to the bullying. If you just wait for a fair party to come along, not ruled by the gaystapo, you will have a long wait.

23 August 2013 11:27  
Blogger LEN said...

Our Democracies have an inherent weakness in that they can be overturned by a vocal minority who know how to manipulate the system.
The 'system' designed to protect the weak and the powerless has been turned into a tool' to demolish the democracy from within.

23 August 2013 21:36  

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