Friday, June 13, 2014

"The Christian centre of Iraq has been totally ransacked"

A plea from Canon Andrew White, Vicar of Baghdad:
Dear Friends,

Things are so bad now in Iraq, the worst they have ever been. The Islamic terrorists have taken control of the whole of Mosul which is Nineveh the main Christian stronghold. The army have even fled. We urgently need help and support.

Please, please help us in this crisis.

Iraq is now in its worst crisis since the 2003 war. ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria Group), a group that does not even see Al Qaida as extreme enough, has moved into Mosul, which is Nineveh. It has totally taken control, destroyed all government departments. Allowed all prisoners out of the prisons. Killed countless numbers of people. There are bodies over the streets. The army and police have fled, so many of the military resources have been captured. Tankers, armed vehicles and even helicopters are now in the hands of ISIS.

Mosul residents fleeing the ISIS takeover.

The area is the heartland of the Christian community. Most of our people come from Nineveh and still see that as their home. It is there that they return to regularly. Many Christian’s fled from back to Nineveh from Baghdad, as things got so bad there. Now the Christian centre of Iraq has been totally ransacked. The tanks are moving into the Christian villages destroying them and causing total carnage. The ISIS militants are now moving towards Kirkuk, major areas to the Oil fields that provide the lifeblood of Iraq. We are faced with total war that all the Iraqi military have now retreated from.

People have fled in their hundreds of thousands to Kurdistan still in Iraq for safety. The Kurds have even closed the border, preventing entry of the masses. The crisis is so huge it is almost impossible to consider what is really happening.


The summer is by far our worst time of the year for support. Both our Foundation in the UK and US have seriously had to reduce our funding. We are in a desperate crisis. So many of our people had returned their homes in Nineveh for the summer now they are stuck in this total carnage unable to even escape. We desperately need help so that we can help the Christians of this broken land just get through this new crisis. Please can you help us, we are desperate.

The terrible fact is that ISIS are in the control now of Fallujah in the South and Mosul in the North they could now move down towards Baghdad between the two and cause a total crisis there. So to be honest I don’t know what to do, do I stay or go back? I have a huge amount of commitments here. If I go back, I cannot change the situation but I want to be with my people. Here we are with this huge crisis and need and we do not even have the resources to help those most in need. So the crisis is huge and we need help, will you please help us?

With much love and grace,


Please, please help us in this crisis:

To make a donation NOW, see HERE

Please also consider regular giving by Standing Order. Regular monthly giving enables families to be fed weekly, medical support and supplies remain available to all in need and the vital reconciliation work can continue, particularly at this most difficult of times.


Shea – The Cleansing of Iraq’s Christians Is Entering Its End Game by Nina Shea (10 June 2014).


Blogger Guy Jones said...

Give and pray

13 June 2014 at 10:33  
Blogger Jay Bee said...

There is the most appalling situation unfolding. Alleged mass beheadings even crucifixions. Atrocities of a kind that should be unthinkable. An Iraq Army Officer said of ISIS "These are not men they are devils."

Meanwhile, on planet Doublethink, where War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength, The Idiot in Chief has just assured us that “The world is less violent than it has ever been. It is healthier than it has ever been. It is more tolerant than it has ever been. It is better fed then it’s ever been. It is more educated than it’s ever been. ”.

He was warned of the consequences of pulling US troops out of Iraq
What is this mans agenda?

13 June 2014 at 10:35  
Blogger Len said...

A truly terrible situation and these poor people need every support we can give them.

13 June 2014 at 10:39  
Blogger Guy Jones said...

@ Jay Bee

I have been told by someone who follows the conspiracy theorists that perpetual instability in areas of strategic importance to the US is the goal.

13 June 2014 at 10:49  
Blogger Ivan said...

How is it Obama's fault when two trained and well equipped divisions, flee in the face of a mere thousand insurgents? The Iraqi Army is a house of cards, the sooner it is divided along sectarian lines the better it is for all.

13 June 2014 at 10:51  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

I was going to make a donation to FRRME, the organisation that supports the truly saintly Canon Andrew White and St George's, which is the only Anglican Church remaining in Iraq.

I haven't done so because I believe the situation there is hopeless for Christians. If the charity organises a mass exodus of Christians out of the city, then I will give money. But to contribute to St George's, which operates under a daily state of siege anyway, or to FRRME itself, which works for, among other things, 'reconciliation amongst different religious groups' seems to me to be utterly pointless in the face of the threat that is fast approaching.

The Christians of Iraq do not need donations, nor do they need our prayers (though these are, of course, freely given). They strong leadership from the Iraqi government and they need guns, big guns.

We are all of us at war with ISIS and it is high time we realised it. We should also accept that the pathetic and limp-wristed interventions that our leaders propose and have proposed are utterly inadequate to deal with the threat that violent Islam (which every day seems to be a stronger, better organised and more effective force) presents. Evacuation is what the Christians of Iraq need or they will, all of them, be killed.

13 June 2014 at 10:54  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

Are Christians being given armaments to protect themselves? If not, then why not; after all we seem to be quite blase about giving muslims as many guns and ammunition as they demand.

13 June 2014 at 10:57  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Lackland Airforce Base strikes again!

13 June 2014 at 11:23  
Blogger Manfarang said...

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13 June 2014 at 11:23  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Iraq is an artificial state that its very different peoples feel no loyalty towards, including it seems its pathetic army.
To allow all that deadly equipment to fall into the hands of the rebels is unbelievable and unforgivable. It would have been better to have destroyed it before giving up ground, as our first continental expeditionary force did before evacuating from Dunkirk - an appalling lack of forethought and discipline.

In the absence of a strongman to hold the factions together it needs to subdivide into more natural grouping with internal affinities and cohesions.

But in the meanwhile the beleaguered Christians need our prayers and donations.

13 June 2014 at 11:39  
Blogger Ivan said...

Manfarang, I don't get the reference.

13 June 2014 at 11:44  
Blogger Irene's Daughter said...

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13 June 2014 at 11:52  
Blogger Irene's Daughter said...

Money will help, but the only real answer is the intervention of Almighty God. This situation has not caught Him unawares. It is another example of the troubles which Jesus spoke about;

4 ¶ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginnings of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
(Matthew 24:4-13)

Ask Him to provide for all their needs and, as He prompts, give out of your plenty to whichever organisation He points out to you. Pray also that in this dire situation, many will endure and be saved. And that they will be found to be faithful witnesses. Also that like Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego they will know Jesus' presence with them in the fire and be brought forth into this life or the next without any taint of smoke on them.

Ask that the Comforter will make Himself known to each one and that He will be their constant guide through the terrors which lie ahead. Ask that all of the suffering will not be in vain and that there will be fruit for His Kingdom out of it.

Pray also for the deceived who perpetrate such evils, just as Jesus prayed as He hung on the cross. 'Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing.'

Yes, send financial help if you can - but give priority to giving your prayers for this situation. And remember that Almighty God does reign and that He is working His purposes out - even if we do not understand what they are.

13 June 2014 at 11:52  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

Irene's daughter @ 11:52

Which is all well and good - unless of course you happen to be one the Christians about to be slaughtered, rather than a person commentating from a safe distance.

If it were my family about to be murdered I would rather have a battalion of soldiers to defend me rather than all of the prayers of the world combined.

The Muslims have a saying for it - 'Trust in God, but tie up your own camel'.

13 June 2014 at 12:21  
Blogger David Grey said...

Guy Jones

Why isn't praying enough?

13 June 2014 at 13:26  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Its where some of the Iraqi new army were trained(and American tax dollars wasted)

13 June 2014 at 13:59  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

David @ 13:26

Because it has not proven to be bulletproof.

13 June 2014 at 14:39  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Prayer can't stop what God has ordained

I heard a brother Christian from Pakistan say that if persecution of Christians does not come then the Bible has misled us because it clearly prophecies terrible times in the last days.

Wolves in sheeps clothing will lead many astray, scoffers will scoff and evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse.

13 June 2014 at 14:58  
Blogger David Grey said...


eh? You're saying God can't stop bullets?

13 June 2014 at 14:58  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Ars Hendrick @ 13.26

I agree with you.

Being a committed Christian I put my trust in God, spiritually. But I also believe in individual self help, family self help, society's "small battalions", good democratic government with strong armies having a deep sense of attachment to their homelands, for the justifiable self defense and protection of our reasonable interests.

So I join with those, who over the centuries have said, "Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition".

This may horrify some pacifist Christians. But I could never be a pacifist as I believe in protecting the weak and vulnerable, and our lands and vital sea and air routes. I rather like Constantine's Army Prayer :-

We know Thou art God alone;
we recognize in Thee our King.
We call on Thee for aid.
From Thee we receive victory,
through Thee we are made greater than our enemies.

We recognise they grace in present blessings
and hope on Thee for the future.
We all beseech Thee, we implore Thee
to preserve our King Constantine
and his pious sons are and victorious to the end of our days.

Some of Field Marshall Montgomery's radio broadcasts to his troops are truly inspired as well, being the son of an Irish Anglican Evangelical vicar.

Our thoughts must be with those fearful for their futures.

13 June 2014 at 15:00  
Blogger David Grey said...


It's misled us because, for example, it says the earth is only 10,000 years old when we know it is some 13.7 billion years old.

13 June 2014 at 15:03  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

Hi David @ 14:58

Something about not putting God to the test comes to mind.

And @ 15:03

The Bible doesn't say the world is 10,000 years old - that's really not how to read the Old Testament.

And the earth is not 13.7bn years old. The universe is estimated to be around 13-15bn years old, the earth around 4.5bn.

13 June 2014 at 15:51  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

David. I don't think this is the time or place for cheap Dawkinist trolling. I discuss fulfilled biblical prophecy and other things on my questiondarwin blog but won't be drawn off topic here.

Reflect instead on whether it was such a good idea for aggressive secularists to promote multiculturalism (i.e. import millions of Muslims) as part of the dechristianisation agenda.

They're coming for you as well.

13 June 2014 at 15:52  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

Thanks David @ 13:26

Yes, the church military has saved Christendom many, many times in the past and will have to do so again, a consequence of living in an imperfect world.

I have noted with interest a reappraisal of the Crusades, moving from the sappy 'it was all our fault' propaganda to a much more accurate representation of what actually happened.

Sometimes the cross has to be united to the sword. This is one of those times.

13 June 2014 at 16:00  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

I've just realised that I am responding to two Davids here - I hope it's clear who is who!

13 June 2014 at 16:01  
Blogger Manfarang said...

The people in the Middle East do know what actually happened.It isn't forgotten as it is largely in the west.
I must say the Crusader castles still look very impressive.

13 June 2014 at 16:16  
Blogger Lucy Mullen said...

@ humanist David

God did not save Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from the flames but He was with them in the flames, I once heard a preacher say, and it has stuck with me. Do you know the story?

I fear that Obama is not greatly perturbed by this. I never ever thought I would say this but they have far far more hope of help from Putin than from either Obama or Cameron. I am still a bit shell-shocked that this should be so, but it clearly is so.

Christians around the world are valued at near nothing by most Western governments at this time. We need to understand how that has come about.

13 June 2014 at 16:40  
Blogger Lucy Mullen said...

@ Rambling Steve

Believe it or not there are a number of religious groupings which are far more inimical to Christianity than even radical Islam. You know who they are; do not underestimate their numbers or profile, smallish minority or not.

13 June 2014 at 16:45  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Leftist historians created the myth that the Crusades (in the Holy Land, most crusades were in europe) were signs of european aggression.

Nothing could be further from the truth. They were defensive, and a belated and inadequate response to the invasion of lands in which previously various beliefs could be freely practised, without incurring dhimmi status and persecution; they were also fought to protect pilgrims visiting the Holy Shrines in Jerusalem. And yes, as someone above has said, the Crusader Castles are still impressive - during their time governing Jerusalem they even rebuilt the Upper Room in Jerusalem. Augustine of Hippo (?) was a North African theologian of the first order of course.

The incursion of the aggressive Muslim presence in the subsequent centuries cut europe off from all the east facing trade routes, forcing an inward mentality, and later we had to bypass the region, by sailing around Africa, or even westwards to open up new opportunities. The Ethiopian Copts were cut off, isolated in their mountains from their brothers and sisters in faith, and hence the antique, eccentric nature of aspects of their faith and country, which is well worth visiting, as part of the overall geopolitical pattern. The relationship of europe to the ME, created the sense of "the west", as a unit sharing Christianity, whilst squabbling like mad internally.
It is deeply ironic that the EU refuses to recognise our deep, undeniable Christian heritage and background, which gave us the Enlightenment and Science and eventually Democracy, as we understand it.
But we live in an age of deep confusion regarding who we are and our place in the world. However in the ME the inhabitants have not forgotten all this. Soon we will have to relearn something approaching the truth, in order to survive in the new world situation.

13 June 2014 at 17:27  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Satanic madness.

God help the victims of this murderous chaos - and inspire those who can help to do so.

13 June 2014 at 17:34  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

The most sensible way to deal with the attackers is judicious use of poison gas.

One is particularly impressed with a group of compounds that cause blistering with symptoms like ‘Tearing, conjunctivitis, corneal damage’. Blind the lot of them I say.

Rather a good write up in Wiki on ‘Chemical Warfare’. You don’t have to kill the blighters and besides the products are not designed to do that, just incapacitate them for a few hours. All kinds of weird and wonderful effects available to do that to the deserving. The good news is that far from exterminating Christians, they would more likely keep them as hostages. They wouldn’t want to be gassed on a daily basis so would present them as human shields.

Definitely the way forward. Life saving, cost effective and no damage to property or infrastructure.

Now, who says your Inspector does not come up with the answer, every time…

13 June 2014 at 17:51  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Dorian Grey, shouldn't you be in an attic somewhere touching up a painting?

Meanwhile, in the actual real world of Islam,
Meriam Yehya Ibrahim is about to receive 100 lashes from a whip for being a Christian. This could kill her. Meriam's case is currently being heard by an appeals court. The hearing will be over within days. If the appeals court does not overturn her convictions, she will be immediately flogged .

As an insight into Islam, here's what Miriam's brother said about her plight:

" ... why would I indulge my humanity, my emotions and incur the wrath of my Lord? That's not how it works for us.”

Something must be done to arrest the spread of this murderous, virulent religion.

13 June 2014 at 17:55  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

A few thoughts:

1. If you live in the West, be grateful for the country in which you live.

2. Let's not speak of persecution in the West. Being told you can't wear a cross to work isn't persecution. What is going on in Iraq is persecution.

3. If these people are committed to commencing a long bloody march back to the seventh century, we can't stop them. Understand they are going to turn themselves into some mix of Somalia and Afghanistan. They aren't getting stronger. They are getting weaker.

4. There isn't going to be a giant caliphate emerging from this. It's going to fracture into tribalism. The caliphate can only emerge from conquest. Who in the Islamic world has the power to do that?

5. If you wanted to suppress this, you would have to be more ruthless than they are. As in the First Century Roman kind of ruthlessness. It could be done, but the consequences would be unfathomable. At this point, you have to wait out the carnage. Chaos leads to poverty and destitution. That will burn out the fever. It's hard to be a revolutionary when you are starving.


13 June 2014 at 18:37  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

Btw. This isn't an appropriate thread for atheist apologetics. Who gives a rip about the age of the universe in this context?


13 June 2014 at 18:47  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Robert Spencer (see jihadwatch) has written 'The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades' which goes some way towards setting the record straight.

For telling the truth about The Religion of Peace, Spencer lives under credible death threat at a secret, secure location. Horribly, our wretched Liberal Home Secretary Thersa May banned him from entering this country.

Do check Robert Spencer's web site.

Just heard Obama on the radio more or less say that the West tried and failed to save Iraqi Muslims from themselves and each other, and won't try again in view of (A) the size of the butcher's bill, and (B) it didn't work. So they will have to stew in their own effluent.

I do believe that although there is little we canbdo to help the innocent victims, we can learn a lot from this whole utterly wretched episode.

I will refrain from posting a full manifesto but would recommend an electrocution for anyone referring to Jihadism as 'misinterpretation/extreme and incorrect version' of Islam when in fact it is the authentic article as any fule no if they read the Quran and some history.

History is bring made here with the whole world watching. The Dawkinists who use this horror to say 'all religions are the same so let's destroy cultural Christianity' are as much use to UK society as ISIS is to Iraq.

If atheists are indeed rational they should recognise the uniquely malignant and anti libertarian nature of Islam and stop attacking the wrong targets.

13 June 2014 at 18:48  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

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13 June 2014 at 18:52  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

I agree we should be arming the Christians with some guns so that they can at least protect themselves. Or getting them to a safer country nearby. Maybe that wonderful nun in Syria Sister Agnes Mariam could help get them into a camp in Jordan.

What I find very odd is the cowardly running away of the 30,000 strong Iraqi army leaving their tanks and armaments behind for ISIS/L How did ISIS/L get armed and who gave them all those same trucks they are arriving in? No rabble group gets to be almost like a proper army without big money and backing? If they became moneyed through robberies, looting banks and picking up others armaments and weapons then they'd have a hotch potch of all sorts but they haven't and they know what they are doing too.

The most dangerous country in the world in our times is America! I was shocked to realise this.

13 June 2014 at 18:53  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Sorry meant to write 'anoelectrocution' for people who keep insisting that jihadism is not authentic Muhammadenism.

'Oooh- that's not very 'christian' you cruel hypocrite!''

OK, 100 lashes then.

13 June 2014 at 18:57  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...


Saudi Arabia is arming and organising them. Same as it masterminded 9/11 and builds mosques in Britain.

This is little reported by the MSM due to our oil dependency, Saudi investments and lucrative arms deals etc.

This is one of the reasons I support nuclear energy and fracking.

13 June 2014 at 19:03  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

A chap is somewhat impressed that the BBC are reporting these murderous scum for what they are. No talk of freedom fighting or Arab spring this time...

13 June 2014 at 19:34  
Blogger Lucy Mullen said...

@ Steve

You are looking in the wrong place for the worst miscreants. The people who masterminded all those dates which use, particularly, dates composed of 1,3,7,9,11, and 13 are not the Saudis. Check out all the bombing atrocities that happened on combinations of those dates, e.g. 9/11. 11/9 and 7/7. Then calculate the statistical probabilities. Then look into those groups that are into these numbers in a big way, and hold superstitious- and completely stupid!!- beliefs about the power of number combinations, and hey presto you have a set of logical conclusions.

Not very nice ones. But radical Islam is only a part of the picture, and I would suggest not even the larger part of it.

13 June 2014 at 19:37  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Lucy @19.37

Je ne comprend pas.

13 June 2014 at 20:46  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Lucy Mullen @19.37

Are you saying that they are believers in mysticism, gnosticism, weird numbers or what ?

13 June 2014 at 20:52  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Re weird and strange conspiracy theories. Some ideas are better put out in fantasty novels than plain speech. That's partly why I wrote 'Darwin's Adders: A Chronicle of Pagan England 2089' Kindle download at 79p.

I wrote...

'As the best place to hide a pebble is on a beach, so the best place to hide a true conspiracy is among many false ones.'

Strange things happen.

My favourite old testament prophet is Jeremiah. Vilified for telling the truth he was proved right in the rnd.

13 June 2014 at 20:57  
Blogger bluedog said...

Great post, RSA @ 18.48, words fail one when reading about the barbarities of ISIS. As Carl says, the only effective antidote to the uprising in Mesopotamia is a Roman response. But what will the Emperor do? A finally crafted speech agonising over his perpetual dilemma would appear to be the first option.

What is so deeply concerning is that ISIS clearly has huge popular support, both in its area of operations and across the Islamic blogosphere. The rapid conquest of so much real estate by such a limited force can only be done with local support.

Lucy Mullen @ 19.37, I must join other posters in being totally perplexed by your comments. Who, what, where? You really should offer a detailed explanation!

13 June 2014 at 22:05  
Blogger Owl said...

Nothing has changed since the 7th century.

OK, why are DC, Blair, Obama and co. surprised. They're not.

How do we stop the bloodshed?

A strong right arm is the only way.

Step aside Dave, things are only warming up and you are out of your depth.

13 June 2014 at 22:20  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Lucy is, Jack believes, Satanic Numerology. Its an old, practice based on the idea that the right combination of numbers has an affect on the material and spirit world.

What's more interesting is that many, calling themselves 'Bible Believing Christians' also see numbers as reflecting God's message and intention and as having power.

13 June 2014 at 22:30  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Typo alert

Lucy is, Jack believes, referring to ...

13 June 2014 at 22:31  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Owl @ 22.40

I agree with you overall, but,

DC, Blair and Obama etc, probably are surprised, I suggest. This does not square with their liberal/ socialist version of history, the smooth upward curve of humanity and all that guff....

But Yes, to the strong right arm. Speak softly but carry a big stick, I always say - which sounds suspiciously like, like... Mr Putin. Horror ! - can't have that - as he is supposed to be Public Enemy No 1, according to our "liberal" leaders and their, oh so wise news hounds, or was that poodles ?

Another suggestion, if I may. All three of "our" favourite leaders that you rightly mention, are out of their depths, not just "Dave". Dave does the doggie paddle in the learners pool.

13 June 2014 at 22:37  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

I found this in “New Eastern Outlook”
The end of the article by Tony Cartalucci “ NATO's Terror Hordes in Iraq a pretext for Syria Invasion”

“A Pretext for NATO Invasion”

“The alleged territory of ISIS overlaps the Iraqi-Syrian border constituting a region nearly the size of Syria itself. With Baghdad asking for foreign intervention, and ISIS giving NATO the perfect pretext to do so by seizing a Turkish consulate in Mosul, making the case for (re)invading Iraq may be feasible. With the Western media capitalizing on ISIS’ notorious brutality, including mass beheadings and hundreds of thousands of civilians fleeing before them, a demonstrable campaign to sway public opinion toward intervention is clearly under way.

Invading northern Iraq will allow NATO to then justify cross-border operations into eastern Syria. In reality what NATO will be doing is establishing their long desired “buffer zone” where terrorists can launch attacks deeper and more effectively into Syrian territory. With western Syria returning to peace and order after a series of victories for the Syrian government, the last front NATO’s proxy forces have is Al Qaeda’s arch of terror running along Turkey’s border and now, across eastern Syria and northern Iraq. NATO’s presence in northern Iraq would also provide an obstacle for Iranian-Syrian trade and logistics.

The idea of such a buffer zone has been in the works since at least March 2012, where the idea was proposed by the US corporate-financier funded Brookings Institution in their “Middle East Memo #21″ “Assessing Options for Regime Change” where it stated specifically (emphasis added):

“An alternative is for diplomatic efforts to focus first on how to end the violence and how to gain humanitarian access, as is being done under Annan’s leadership. This may lead to the creation of safe-havens and humanitarian corridors, which would have to be backed by limited military power. This would, of course, fall short of U.S. goals for Syria and could preserve Asad in power. From that starting point, however, it is possible that a broad coalition with the appropriate international mandate could add further coercive action to its efforts.”

Through Iraq, NATO has used its terrorist proxies to create a pretext to put this “buffer zone” strategy back into motion. The prospect of the US, NATO, or the Persian Gulf states delivering Iraq from ISIS is an ironic tragedy – as definitive evidence reveals ISIS’ brutal incursion was of this collective coalition’s own doing to begin with, and for its own insidious ends. Instead, a joint Iranian-Iraqi-Syrian anti-terror campaign should be conducted to corner and crush NATO’s terrorist mercenary expeditionary force once and for all."

Tony Cartalucci, Bangkok-based geopolitical researcher and writer, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

13 June 2014 at 23:02  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Your Grace

Happy Jack suggests you may wish to consider removing the post above this one promoting magic spells and potions.

13 June 2014 at 23:42  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

No. Leave it as an example of the lesser races beliefs...

13 June 2014 at 23:50  
Blogger Happy Jack said...


Jack was actually going to add "... before the Inspector sees it."

14 June 2014 at 00:29  
Blogger carl jacobs said...


I will say this for you. You are certainly unique. I tried to think of how best to describe you today and the best I could come up with is that the Inspector is orthonormal to everything else. That's not actually physically possible, but somehow you have managed it.

You are like a miracle of nature.


14 June 2014 at 05:27  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


Leave off the Inspector

His comments are are often right on the mark and best of all humorous.

Therefore everyone reads them!


14 June 2014 at 05:50  
Blogger Len said...

I see HJ is still straining at gnats and swallowing Camels.
The irony is probably totally lost on him.

14 June 2014 at 10:18  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

The Atlantic website has an interesting profile of ISIS and how it runs its Islamic ”state”. Conclusion:

The $425 million (almost half a billion!) that ISIS seized from Mosul’s central bank this week won’t only aid the militants on the region's battlefields. It will also help underwrite the group’s campaign to win hearts and minds. And that will make it even more difficult to dislodge the nascent proto-state from Syria and Iraq.

14 June 2014 at 11:35  
Blogger Ivan said...

Uncle Brian, what form does the windfall take? I'm pretty sure that the deposits are simply bits in some electronic brain which can be erased away. Unless these buggers are still moving around with Pancho Villa's gold.

Its strange, suddenly everybody knows everything, about these most mysterious of bandits.

14 June 2014 at 11:50  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Marie at 23.02 yesterday.

I'm sorry but I can't go along with this at all.

Having said that, many people would call me barking mad for taking bible prophecy including Jesus's words about the End Times seriously. Who was it said 'It will get worse before it gets even worse'?

Kind regards, I'm off to the orchard for some heslthy outdoor work and some cider after a ghastly morning of admin and fighting my failing computer after a course I've just finished. Worse things happen in ......

14 June 2014 at 14:07  
Blogger Len said...

I don`t think any doubt can remain in peoples mind that Islam is the greatest threat to world peace. It is time for our leaders in the West to take an indepth look at Islam its aims and intentions.
I don`t think any of our leaders have totally understood the implications of intervention in Iraq and Syria.

14 June 2014 at 14:39  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


Islam is not a threat to world peace.

Weak liberal government like new labour and especially neo conservatives like Cameron's pals (they have cut the army by 30%) are the real threat to world peace


14 June 2014 at 15:15  
Blogger David Grey said...


Ah yes got my dates muddled there.

Most Christians in America would disagree with you about the age of the Earth. They believe the Earch is only 10,000 years old.

Why is that?

14 June 2014 at 15:20  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Phil Roberts

Islam is not a threat to world peace.

Yet another pathetic example of a self-hating white man. Stick to your fantasy world - please.

What an utter *%*!in' NUMPTY!

14 June 2014 at 15:37  
Blogger Sidney Deane said...

Lol @ dreadnaught.

Completely agree. To say that he's either a coward or a moron.

14 June 2014 at 15:45  
Blogger Sidney Deane said...


Steve, atheists think all religions are the same only to the extent that they are all incorrect. Atheists just believe in one less god than you.

It's interesting when you think that all believers are atheists in respect of every other religion except the one in which they happen to have been brought up in or which their community/society/country follows.

Funny that, isnt it?

14 June 2014 at 15:56  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Rambling Steve Appleseed

Well, keep an open mind. Reading Uncle Brian's link on ISIS is quite enlightening,seems they are more established than the media would have us think.
Apples are good for tummy troubles so I'm consuming plenty of English apple products myself keep them coming.

Uncle Brian
Thank you.

Why would ISIS who cut the hands off thieves rob from a bank themselves contradicting their own ideology? The truth is they are being quietly funded by the Saudis and other Persian Gulf states, NATO and the US, and this story is put out by the media to cover up what's been going on covertly.

Seizing $245Million Dollars would take up a lot of room, they'd need a big vehicle to carry that away, and the notes and or gold can be traced, so are they competent in computer technology to electronically transfer it? Even if they killed everyone in the central bank would they have the knowledge to access the system and transfer the cash themselves without outside help? If they didn't kill everyone, instead getting someone at gun point to download the money into their account, killing them afterwards why can't their account be traced and blocked?

Don't forget the interest is the Saudi's want control of the oil pipes and planned pipes that are going to go up through Syria, therefore want rid of competition and those who have other plans.

14 June 2014 at 16:06  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


"Yet another pathetic example of a self-hating white man. Stick to your fantasy world - please.

What an utter *%*!in' NUMPTY!"

If you don't have anything worth saying.......

The point was, if you project your liberal values onto the rest of the world (Like Cameron's pals)and at the same time cut your army and so your defensive capability (Like Cameron's pals)

You can expect something quite nasty to happen to you


14 June 2014 at 20:19  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

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14 June 2014 at 20:19  
Blogger Rambling Steve Appleseed said...

Sidney Deane.

There are many 'funny', sad, pointless, deceitful and hurtful beliefs in this world.

I'm with Jesus.

If you want to know why, follow the link from my Blogger profile. But although I do care, I don't have time to engage with every Dawkins' Parrot who trolls along here with unbearably tired slogans.

14 June 2014 at 23:20  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Phil Roberts

If you don't have anything worth saying.......

That's rich coming from a man who said Islam is not a threat to world peace.

Crap is still crap, no matter which way you try and polish it!

14 June 2014 at 23:43  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


"To say that he's either a coward or a moron."

Well done, said like a true atheist.


14 June 2014 at 23:47  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Carl. “You are like a miracle of nature.”

That’s damn decent of you old man, to give a fellow the thumbs up like that.

14 June 2014 at 23:51  
Blogger St Bruno said...

Did you really think this killing and murder of Christians would never happen? Where have
you been the last thirty years?
Never mind rattling the begging bowls,say something useful to the powers that be.The Christians are it again tinkering with the hearts and minds of the gullible masses while the real needs are forgotten. Islam rules the agenda once more. For goodness sake get a grip stand up and call a spade a spade, if I hear it once more that Islam is a religion of peace I will watch the Pope kiss a Muslim and listen to the real words of an Imman prayer, what absolute betrayal for Christians.

Silence of the lambs or rather the silence of the wolves. Why is the UN silent about this humanitarian crisis? The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation OIC is silent once again on matters that surely need cooperation, if only a little pity for humanity.
The world can see what the truth is even if the OIC chooses to remain above it all.

14 June 2014 at 23:59  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


If Islam is a threat to world peace.

Then why was it not 60 years ago?

The reason that Islam is a threat is because we provoke, we are weak.

Why do we want to/ allow ourselves become weak?

Now that is a good question...


15 June 2014 at 00:02  
Blogger IanCad said...


I hope you fully appreciate the awe in which you are held and that you will endeavour to maintain the new high standards which are expected of you.


In linear algebra, two vectors in an inner product space are orthonormal if they are orthogonal and unit vectors. A set of vectors form an orthonormal set if all vectors in the set are mutually orthogonal and all of unit length. An orthonormal set which forms a basis is called an orthonormal basis.

I hope all that is perfectly clear and that you will live up to this unique characteristic with which you have been merited.


15 June 2014 at 09:06  
Blogger Len said...

'The Inspector' is a curiosity who has managed to evade capture so far (bit like 'big foot' or' the yeti')but he will be captured and examined by experts in' the side room' allotted to those with a pre occupation with all things homosexual.

15 June 2014 at 09:22  
Blogger Len said...

Meanwhile back to the point in question before we all end up in' the side room of shame'.
We are fast running out of options when dealing with extremists it is not enough for the West to go into Islamic Countries and to try and enforce them to behave in 'a civilized fashion 'and then withdraw and leave 'them to it'.
This is exactly what America and her allies are doing.
As the world descends into chaos man is fast running out of options and withdrawal into 'a shell of denial' can only exacerbate matters.
Nations which desire peace must act in a Global fashion to control those who`s only desire is to cause death and disorder.

15 June 2014 at 09:35  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


The world has always had extremists

The Armada was no different in essence to what we see now in Iraq

Before the Catholics get grumpy I would also lump in the atheist Regimes of the French and later the Communists..

The question is that if they were not such a threat, then why not?. What has changed?

Not us surely?


15 June 2014 at 11:48  
Blogger Sidney Deane said...


We are also tired of repeating the same easy criticisms.

But the thing is, noone has ever successfully rebutted them. Because they are based on fact, logic and evidence.

I notice you didnt respond to the substantive point in my post.

15 June 2014 at 13:04  
Blogger Len said...

Phil' What has changed?'.

The only way to understand the way world events are unfolding is through the Word of God(God who sees the end from the beginning) and to understand Bible Prophecy(which so many deride)Without understanding the outline of events revealed through the Bible we will be totally blind confused and panic stricken at the way world events are unfolding.
'The statue' in the book of Daniel illustrates the progression of the World Kingdoms until finally God call an end to the chaos presently ruling the Earth and sets up a Kingdom ruled by his Son..
The Book of Revelation is a series of' keys' given as symbols which unlock prophecy.
Each symbol is revealed in the Bible.

15 June 2014 at 13:05  
Blogger Ivan said...

Disquis and other similar innovations have wrecked some very intelligent and worthy sites. Richard Fernandez's Belmont Club was once the hangout of a belligerent neocon crowd, there was a resident poet 'Walt' who spun out verses at the drop of a hat. It all made for great enlightenment and entertainment, all that disappeared after the hosts introduced some commenting innovations. IIRC the same happened to Damian Thompson's site, where the noise to signal ratio rose dramatically with the introduction of Disquis.

I suppose there are commercial reasons for this innovation, and am very grateful to HG for tolerating me all these years.

15 June 2014 at 13:58  
Blogger carl jacobs said...


Exactly. The Inspector forms his own basis. That was the point. However, that space has some interesting properties. The Inspector multiplied by any constant equals the Inspector. Which means all constants in Inspector space are reflected into one. It therefore goes without saying that any combination of vectors in Inspector space will yield the Inspector. Finally we note that any vector translated into Inspector space maps to zero. So if we compute the dot product of the Inspector with anything, we get zero. He is a vector space containing one vector - perfectly removed from everything else.

One can conceive of such a space in the abstract. But to see it realized ...


15 June 2014 at 14:53  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

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15 June 2014 at 15:45  
Blogger Ariadne said...

Disqus works very well on the Elder of Ziyon's site. And I've contributed to Canon White's Fund since I don't see anything else I personally can do.

15 June 2014 at 16:24  
Blogger IanCad said...

Carl Many thanks.

The scales and cobwebs fall away.
It is much clearer now.

You may be on to something.

Relating complex ideas or notions to human or personal experience, or, observation, really helps in the understanding of such riddles.

A series on youtube could go viral.
Give Salman Khan a run for his money.

It was tried once before with Pythagoras. Needs updating.

Something along the lines of : "The sons of the squaw on the hippopotamus are equal to the sons of the squaws on the other two hides."


15 June 2014 at 17:06  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

Sidney Deane

Here is how it is.

There are no substantive differences between the ISIS and you Atheists

Both intend to destroy what is good impose your worldview using terror. The differences are that ISIS destroy from outside but you destroy from inside society like a cancer.


15 June 2014 at 20:39  
Blogger Sidney Deane said...

Haha so melodramatic.

Whereve you got this nonsense from? How do atheists want to destroy what is good?

16 June 2014 at 08:25  
Blogger Naomi King said...

What everyone is overlooking is that Obama is a muslim. So he has no interest in protecting Christians, why would he ?

16 June 2014 at 08:42  
Blogger Ivan said...

Obama is a muslim... So if he doesn't protect the Shias he is a Sunni? Isn't it stupidity like this that got Iraq into the bloody mess in the first place.

16 June 2014 at 09:34  
Blogger Lucy Mullen said...

Sorry I have been travelling so did not enlarge on the previous post. If you do the exercise with those numbers you come to a very tiny probability indeed that numerology is not part of that. On a theological level that is clearly a ridculous belief to any vaguely intelligent monotheist, that certain numbers should have specific power, for we do not worship a God who is capricious and petty. To those who either mix occultism with mainstream religious beliefs or who are occultists or practitioners of the dark side these beliefs- very strangely to us- appear reasonable. I don't think that mainstream Islam would believe in numerology, though I am ready to be corrected. Therefore at the least we would be looking at fringe groups.

That doesn't narrow the perpetrators down to just one group, or just to a few, but it does narrow it down significantly.

Thus we have to take them into account when working out who is responsible, whilst acknowledging that the actual belief is primitive and ridiculous.

16 June 2014 at 10:11  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...


Look at the numbers murdered by Atheist Regimes


16 June 2014 at 15:34  
Blogger Benedictus_in_Arden said...

Andrew White: it is a miracle that you are in this country: that you can be with your family here when they need you - and your most powerful blogs and preaching and comments are what can best help the situation with your beloved Iraqi family... Here you can help them, if you were there you could not.

17 June 2014 at 20:22  

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